Ester Eddie Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 I'm new to this site and thought I would say hello to everyone from the far north.{ Fairbanks} Alaska. A month or so ago I saved a 1941 Plymouth from the crusher and now I traded my 72 Torino for a 49 Windsor .I went to look at it yesterday and can't wait to get it home.I don't know much about these 2 cars but hope to learn as I go.... Quote
DutchEdwin Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 Welcome to the club. Looks like you have a lot of work on hand. Will you keep them original? Quote
Ester Eddie Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Posted September 9, 2012 I would like to keep them Original as possible .The 41 needs a new motor and a friend just gave me a flathead but not sure what its out of. I'll post pics soon .The 49 has everything there I think I just have to clean her up a bit and tune it up. But yes I am not a "chop stuff up guy " I 'm a slow and steady guy. Quote
Ester Eddie Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Posted September 9, 2012 This is the flathead a friend is giving me .with transmission too. Quote
DutchEdwin Posted September 10, 2012 Report Posted September 10, 2012 I'm not a flathead guy, my car has a V8. But at the front of the engine, there should be a number beginning with a P(lymouth) or D(odge). Mine is a P27, so jours would be near P15 or D24 I think, followed by the engine number. By that way you can find out what car it was used in. You need this to find out what parts will fit. your finger is probably pointing out the part number of the head of the engine. Good luck. Quote
garbagestate 44 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Posted September 10, 2012 If the 49 is a Windsor then it's probably a 6 cyl. As such, parts are easier to come by and cheaper than the 8 cyl. version.(New Yorker chassis) Quote
Ester Eddie Posted September 11, 2012 Author Report Posted September 11, 2012 Yes the Windsor has a 6 in it. The guy said it is "pickled" . Filled with diesel before being parked to stop the inside from rusting and getting stuck.I need to get it home .It's in North Pole about a 20 minute drive from my house.I can't wait till its here. Quote
falconvan Posted September 11, 2012 Report Posted September 11, 2012 Welcome, Eddie! You picked the right place for all things dealing with old Mopars. Great looking projects; we're looking forward to seeing them come back to life. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Posted September 11, 2012 Hi Eddie. Glad to see you found your way over here. Welcome. Looks like you gonna keep busy for a while with your projects. Bob Quote
Chester Brzostowski Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 Welcome Eddie, I hope you have as much fun as I have had over the last 8 years working on my 48 Plymouth. Fairbanks Alaska Do you have a heated garage to work on your car. I hear you have some pretty tough winters. I had a 47 Plymouth parts car and a 92 jeep Cherokee. Before I sold what was left of the parts car I did entertain for a moment.., mating the jeep to the 47 for a 4 wheel drive 47 Plymouth. Now you could probably use a vehicle like that. Good luck, Chet... Quote
46busboys Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 I hate to be the butthead but keep it real..... The value of those cars in a mildly restored state will be much much lower that the amount of money it will take to get them in any kind of decent condition. These old mopars just don't command alot of dough. you might want to put some serious thought into those projects. Like I said I hate to be an ***, but I speak from many years experience. Someone needs to tell it like it is....... Quote
garbagestate 44 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 I hate to be the butthead but keep it real..... The value of those cars in a mildly restored state will be much much lower that the amount of money it will take to get them in any kind of decent condition. These old mopars just don't command alot of dough. you might want to put some serious thought into those projects. Like I said I hate to be an ***, but I speak from many years experience. Someone needs to tell it like it is....... That's true enough but I doubt that most people on this forum fix there cars with the expectation that they will one day sell them and move to the Palm Springs. Quote
Ester Eddie Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Posted September 12, 2012 I'm not really worried about the "value " of the cars I have .The 41 will take alot of time ,cash, and trading . The 49 won't take much I hope to get her up and running.I just want to see them run and have fun and learn as I go along.My son will reach the age when he can work on them with me .I do not have a garage here yet so once it gets cold { below zero} I won't get to do to much till Spring time. Quote
Ester Eddie Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Posted September 12, 2012 That's true enough but I doubt that most people on this forum fix there cars with the expectation that they will one day sell them and move to the Palm Springs. x2 . Quote
Ester Eddie Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Posted September 12, 2012 Welcome Eddie,I hope you have as much fun as I have had over the last 8 years working on my 48 Plymouth. Fairbanks Alaska Do you have a heated garage to work on your car. I hear you have some pretty tough winters. I had a 47 Plymouth parts car and a 92 jeep Cherokee. Before I sold what was left of the parts car I did entertain for a moment.., mating the jeep to the 47 for a 4 wheel drive 47 Plymouth. Now you could probably use a vehicle like that. Good luck, Chet... Ha ! The thought crossed my mind on putting the 41 on a scout frame for the 4x4 . But no I will be putting a flat 6 in her and Keeping her original as possible ..I dream of a heated garage too. Quote
46busboys Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) Well I'm not saying anyone is out to get rich, but I can see spending an easy 15 grand and ending up with a 4 thousand dollar car......or as more likely spending 4 thousand, never getting a driving car out of it and sitting there waiting on the next guy. I think you would be way better off buying a 2500 dollar car from outside and shelling out a grand to ship it to AK. Then you would be starting with a bit more car. But just me. Good luck to you!! Edited September 12, 2012 by 46busboys Quote
Ester Eddie Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Posted September 12, 2012 Well I'm not saying anyone is out to get rich, but I can see spending an easy 15 grand and ending up with a 4 thousand dollar car......or as more likely spending 4 thousand, never getting a driving car out of it and sitting there waiting on the next guy. I think you would be way better off buying a 2500 dollar car from outside and shelling out a grand to ship it to AK. Then you would be starting with a bit more car. But just me. Good luck to you!! 15 grand ?ending up with a 4 grand car ! Damn that don't sound to good..If I had 4 grand to toss around Id be pretty set. The windsor is complete needs some love. The 41 I saved from the crusher of death .I wish I had that shippers number that ships cars to Alaska for 1000.... Quote
old-idaho-iron Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 I'm just going to chime in here on the projects being to much money and not worth it. Yeah there is usually alot more money spent on restoring a car back to it's original shape, specially with the bastard cars like most mopars fall into, not being the ever so popular ford and chevys, then the retail market says they are worth. But where do you think all of these nice cars people have start out as? I think it would be safe to say most people start out with a hull of a car and slowly and progressively build the car back to it's former glory.I know myself I don't have the funds to go out and buy a rust free complete car. No I start with whatever it is I can afford and whatever shape it may be in and work towards the ultimate goal of having a car put back the way either the factory intended or however it is I want to build it.My cars are **** piles I guess in the sense they need tons of work, but at least they are my shitpiles!!!! It may take more money to put them back to how i want them to be, then they may actually be worth, but that's why I am into this hobby because I love doin the work and seeing my progress. So here's to all the people with old rusty cars. Build em, drive em, and love every minute of it!! Quote
46busboys Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 I've shipped many cars to and from AK for under 1000 bucks. pm me if you want a good shipper. Quote
pflaming Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 I agree with Old-idaho-iron. Last night I added up what it will cost me to get legal, and it's around $1,000 bucks and I'm only cleaning up a rust free truck. Oh I could have fixed the engine and the brakes and been on the road years ago, but then I wouldn't know people in TN, MN, MA, CA, NE, TX, MO, CO, VA, NY, get the point? And I wouldn't have a free bumper, radio, loads of advice, fantastic gauges, etc. This has been a great build. It has given me a retirement hobby, one I would never have considered, I just got lucky or better yet, the Lord is good to me. Enjoy every rusty bolt minute and we'll help and celebrate with you as youi journey. Paul Quote
Chester Brzostowski Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 Doing a restoration that takes a car from crusher to turnpike takes a considerable amount of time and money. If you watch the pennies without sacrificing quality and do everything yourself you can do a cost effective restoration. The money you spend doesn’t hurt as much because it is allocated over a period of years. Like buying a car on lay-a-way. The hard part is staying constantly focused and getting to the end. I wholeheartedly agree that finding a car in better shape will reduce the cost and time to complete the finished product. For most of us what we started with was what we could afford at the time. Eddie working on the car with your son sounds like something that money can’t buy. Remember that the journey you are embarking on is a long and hard one. I guess now that I am presumably, older and wiser, I can say it is the hard things that we do in life that we are able to look back at with the most pride. Have fun. Good luck, Chet… Quote
Ester Eddie Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Posted September 12, 2012 Well thanks everybody for your advice,input and opinions .I just hope for things to go smooth. I'm going to try an rent a uhaul trailer or dolly to get the Windsor home this week end . I went there after work and traded titles and grabbed the rear fenders,emblems,rad,hub caps and what nots that were loose inside the car... Quote
Niel Hoback Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 You seem to be photographing casting numbers on your block. Look for the small, machined flat space just under the bottom edge of the head, directly above the generator. Clean it off and the engine number should be there starting with a letter. this is the number that will determine the age and car line it was originally in. It used to be the number used for license registration purposes. That old Chrysler will make a nice road car when you get it going. One of my Granddaughters just started her sophomore year at UAF. Quote
Ester Eddie Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Posted September 13, 2012 Thanks Niel . Yeah I'm pretty new to this so just took pics of any numbers I saw on there.Uaf is a pretty nice school ..The starter was broken and missing its main inside part. I took it in to Alaska Electric rebuilders here in town and they gave me hope that they will fix one up for me. Quote
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