55 Fargo Posted May 4, 2012 Report Posted May 4, 2012 Hey all, had my lock cylinder from my 1955 Fargo, at the old skool locksmith 2 days ago. He found the key blank, and keyed the cylinder, but not with what Chrysler listed as X1199G, but a Hurd 1125H, which was used on 1940-51 Fords, and 53-59 Studebakers. Now I tried this key in my parts door, and same fit. What do the Dodges use for 1955-56, I am baffled by this..........Fred Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Posted May 5, 2012 Hmmmm, does anyone know what key blank and lock type they have in their Pilothouse Trucks. I know this isn't the most exciting ?, but trying to find out if Chrysler Canada, used different lock and keys in the Fargo/Dodge truck line, compared to US built trucks.... Quote
B1B Keven Posted May 5, 2012 Report Posted May 5, 2012 (edited) Maybe? http://www.ebay.com/itm/H6-1125-KEY-FORD-MERCURY-LINCOLN-1939-1948-STUDEBAKER-1953-1957-NOS-/220995077254?fits=Make:Dodge|Model:Truck&hash=item3374554486&item=220995077254&pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr http://www.ebay.com/itm/49-50-51-52-53-54-55-DODGE-PLYMOUTH-CHRYSLER-KEY-BLANKS-/150809870849?hash=item231cf80201&item=150809870849&pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr Edited May 5, 2012 by B1B Keven Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Posted May 5, 2012 Maybe?http://www.ebay.com/itm/H6-1125-KEY-FORD-MERCURY-LINCOLN-1939-1948-STUDEBAKER-1953-1957-NOS-/220995077254?fits=Make:Dodge|Model:Truck&hash=item3374554486&item=220995077254&pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr http://www.ebay.com/itm/49-50-51-52-53-54-55-DODGE-PLYMOUTH-CHRYSLER-KEY-BLANKS-/150809870849?hash=item231cf80201&item=150809870849&pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr Thanx Keven, the 1st ebay add is what keys I have and the type of lock cyl on both my Fargo Truck, and Dodge parts truck, both Canadian built. Now My question to you Guys with USA built Dodge trucks, what keyblank is used in your door locks,is it the same as the cars????? Or is it like mine a HURD lock used in a Chrysler product. Now I suppose it could be said my truck, had the lock switch swapped in by someone, but both trucks, not likely.... Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted May 5, 2012 Report Posted May 5, 2012 check the companies history...they did do business with Chrysler...limited..but still did business...does it matter what others have if you got the right key for yours? Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Posted May 5, 2012 check the companies history...they did do business with Chrysler...limited..but still did business...does it matter what others have if you got the right key for yours? Actually it does matter, because I want to know, in case I ever bought other doors, which are US manufactured, what locks would they have, and would mine be interchangeable. This is one of those scenarios that is a unique way that Chrysler Canada, possibly did something different than the US built trucks of the same era, and was interested to know if mine was an anomaly, or just a Canadian thing, or a install whatever was lying around the farm thing.....GEESH just a self interest question Quote
B1B Keven Posted May 5, 2012 Report Posted May 5, 2012 The only keyed door lock I've owned had a 'ford' key. Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Posted May 5, 2012 The only keyed door lock I've owned had a 'ford' key. YUp, so the US built Dodge truck may have also used the Hurd H1125 key, that for used from 1940-1951, thanx Keven, just some info for my own use.... Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted May 5, 2012 Report Posted May 5, 2012 Actually it does matter, because I want to know, in case I ever bought other doors, which are US manufactured, what locks would they have, and would mine be interchangeable.This is one of those scenarios that is a unique way that Chrysler Canada, possibly did something different than the US built trucks of the same era, and was interested to know if mine was an anomaly, or just a Canadian thing, or a install whatever was lying around the farm thing.....GEESH just a self interest question you would have the lock keyed by the same locksmith..I really cannot see where an individual needing a good door would ever pull the plug on the buy just because it had a Yale lock verse a Hurd....get real.. Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Posted May 5, 2012 you would have the lock keyed by the same locksmith..I really cannot see where an individual needing a good door would ever pull the plug on the buy just because it had a Yale lock verse a Hurd....get real.. No, that has nothing to do with it, of course I would still buy the door. I just want to know if the lock cylinders in my truck, would fit into the US built trucks, if they did happen to have different lock parts, just a case of interest. I would of course take the US built locks in for keyingif they were infact different, I was only curious about what may or may not be different, that is all............ Not to be a PITA, but no one has keyed locks, that could say yes there like yours, or no they are like the Mopar built cars of the same years. Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 6, 2012 Author Report Posted May 6, 2012 They are supposed to look like this Hank THank you very much Hank, now I know, that all is stock with my locks, as they are tha same as in your pic....Thanx Fred Quote
Rusty O'Toole Posted May 8, 2012 Report Posted May 8, 2012 Recently I bought a 1949, Canadian made Chrysler Windsor. It came without keys. I took out a door lock and had an old time locksmith make a key (same key fits ignition and doors). It was an obsolete type of key but he happened to have some. The key and lock did not look like the ones in the picture. They were a 5 pin Yale lock. Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 8, 2012 Author Report Posted May 8, 2012 Rusty, I think the cars were using Ilco Chrysler X1199 B, those would be for the door, ignition, the trunk would use XO1199B, essentially the same keyway, different bow, and possibly a 3rd keys for the glovebox.These would also be Yale keys for these too, as I have some. The trucks used Hurd door lock and keys, not sure what the igniton switch was used, as I do not have one, I have a modern aftermarket switch. Quote
HanksB3B Posted May 8, 2012 Report Posted May 8, 2012 Rusty, I think the cars were using Ilco Chrysler X1199 B, those would be for the door, ignition, the trunk would use XO1199B, essentially the same keyway, different bow, and possibly a 3rd keys for the glovebox.These would also be Yale keys for these too, as I have some.The trucks used Hurd door lock and keys, not sure what the igniton switch was used, as I do not have one, I have a modern aftermarket switch. I heard they were Hurd . They are but the keys say Ilco on them. Hank Quote
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