Andydodge Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Had a call from a guy here in Oz who has a 51 NewYorker, these were never sold new here and is a recent import. Its still LHD and has had the original 331 removed and a later 354 & adapted alloy 727 auto installed. He is interested in updating the brakes and was wondering whether I knew if the stub axles are the same as the 41-56 Plymouth/Dodge ones. As I have never seen a 1951 US Chrysler I couldn't be much help so........ Does anyone have a definate answer here.........note that as this car was NOT ever sold here, Oz service manuals etc do NOT cover it at all, and where he lives he doesn't know of anyone with a similar year Oz mopar to make a comparision with.......so any ideas?......lol..........thanks, Andy Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desotodav Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 AndyD, I have a mate working on manufacturing a quantity of disc brake front axle setup/s for mid fifties MOPAR cars. Email me if you think this would be suitable for your contact and I will forward you his details. Desotodav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andydodge Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Dav.thats the problem, we need to find out whether New Yorker stubs are bigger than the standard Plymouth/Dodge ones.........I think they are/should be, but am only going on what i remembered reading somewhere......lol.......these ones that are getting made..........what are they to suit and what discs are they to fit?.........andyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty O'Toole Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) They are much bigger. I could give you the part numbers if it would help. Need to know, exact model #, Canadian or US built, and whether it has power steering. Generally speaking, Plymouth and Dodge use the same suspension. DeSoto and Chrysler share a heavier suspension. And all DeSoto and Chrysler estate wagons, and Dodge, DeSoto or Chrysler 8 passenger sedans and limousines share a still heavier suspension. The stock brakes are very good and should be adequate if your friend knows how to drive a car. On the other hand it is a heavy powerful car and if he is used to barrelling around like a fool depending on his brakes to get him out of trouble then discs might be a good idea. I used to drive a 1952 New Yorker and never had any problem with the brakes. The stock power brake setup is better and more reliable than rivals that used the Bendix Treadlevac system. They were prone to fail without warning. Not so Chryslers. Edited February 21, 2012 by Rusty O'Toole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desotodav Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Email sent to you Andy... Disc brake backing plates are being made without modifying the stub-axles or king pins in case a fella wants to change back to original down the track. 1941-1954 MOPAR cars (and possibly trucks too?). Pretty much for Oz vehicles only - GM or Ford stud pattern. Desotodav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andydodge Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Rusty, thanks for the info, from what this guy said on the phone he is not real clued up on mopars and in some respects due to the lack of any direct supply in oz of any stock brake parts etc he might be best to try & convert it to discs but using an Oz sourced disc.......he was gunna contact an oz brake specialist, Hoppers Stoppers who should be able to sort him out but I said I'd check here 1st.......Hoppers do all sorts of brake conversions, they are on the net if you check , but anyway appreciate your input.........many thanks.........andyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james curl Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Old Daddy now has a kit for the larger Chrysler and DeSoto spindles. He is listed in the supplier section of the home page, give him an e mail or call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty O'Toole Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 For trivia fans, Chrysler was the first car in the world to offer disc brakes. They were standard equipment on the 1950 Chrysler Town and Country station wagon and 1950-54 Crown Imperial, a $400 option on other models. They were fitted to all four wheels, not just the front wheels. Ausco-Lambert brakes http://www.imperialclub.com/Repair/Brakes/lambert.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 All 145"WB Crown Imperials used these disc brakes from 1949 through 55 or 56. My 50 T&C has them as you say Rusty. They are self energizing too. A bit sensitive and don't require the booster as do the regular eight cylinder cars which as you say have excellent braking power. My 1950 NewYorker will throw you through the windshield on a hard stop-love those brakes! Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49roadster Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 For trivia fans' date=' Chrysler was the first car in the world to offer disc brakes. They were standard equipment on the 1950 Chrysler Town and Country station wagon and 1950-54 Crown Imperial, a $400 option on other models. They were fitted to all four wheels, not just the front wheels.Ausco-Lambert brakes [url']http://www.imperialclub.com/Repair/Brakes/lambert.htm[/url] Check the 1949 Crosley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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