powder caoted block?

[michael.warshaw]

could it be dangerous?

[michael.warshaw]

???

[claybill]

it doesnt seem like a good idea. sandblasting first and then plugging up so many holes!!! and who says the p/c will last any more than heat paint.

it has been talked abut, but dont think anyone has done it...just seems lke a fad ..!

bill

[John Reddie]

I personally would rather really clean the block surface and paint it with a good quality engine paint.

John R

[Joe Flanagan]

1. Open wallet

2. Open toilet lid

3. Empty contents of wallet into toilet

4. Flush

That's just my opinion, though. The engine is going to be the dirtiest, greasiest place in your car. It will see the harshest conditions. I agree with John.

[cwcars88]

It will also be the easyest part on your power train to clean, I would worry about the heat of the motor not being able to disapate.

Wayne

[Don Coatney]

Unchartered territory:)

I say be the first on your block and go for it. Then report the results to educate those of us who cannot afford to, and/or are not willing to try it.

[Terry in Bozrah]

I did this about 3-4 years ago.

I heated the block up 3 times to off gas the casting and cleaned block each time.

Then Powder Coated block 3 times for good coverage.

Looked good first year, second year a little green showing around the edges.

Last year removed as much PC as I could and used HT paint.

Save your money and use a good High temp. paint.

Terry

[Troganin]

Cant argue with that.

/End

[55 Fargo]

I would think this would be a great thing to have on an engine, should be a tough coating, and look great. I have my rims and a few other items powdercoated, and very happy with them.

I say if you really can afford it, why not get the block powder coated, would sure look great, and be unique..........

[michael.warshaw]

motor is at powder coater now will get pics in the next few days.

[michael.warshaw]

I did this about 3-4 years ago.

I heated the block up 3 times to off gas the casting and cleaned block each time.

Then Powder Coated block 3 times for good coverage.

Looked good first year, second year a little green showing around the edges.

Last year removed as much PC as I could and used HT paint.

Save your money and use a good High temp. paint.

Terry

you say that you powder the block three times, normally powder coating is done in one coat, not 3 unless your doing a candie color, or metalic color which needs a mixture of colors. i dont know if powder coating is your business, but i know that its not basic thing to do, and you need expensive equipemnt to do it right. powder coating done right, will outlast any paint, handsdown. when they try to remove powderocat and have to have it repowdered, its on there so good that it can not even be sandblasted, cause the saind just bounces off the poeder.

[Uncle-Pekka]

Has anyone here tried POR15 engine enamel?

I did my trunk floor by using the regular Por15 and have been satisfied with it so far (3 yrs). Also it was easy to apply with brush, yet produced nice surface.

If engine enamel is re-developed for engine block, it should be interesting product.

http://www.por15.com/ENGINE-ENAMEL/productinfo/EEPA/

[Don Coatney]

motor is at powder coater now will get pics in the next few days.

What temperature must the block be heated to for powder coating?

[Terry in Bozrah]

Mike Have you done any Powder Coating?

I wanted to try it to see how it worked.

I've been meaning to post this as I forgot who asked when I did it to post results. This is it.

you say that you powder the block three times, normally powder coating is done in one coat, not 3 unless your doing a candie color, or metalic color which needs a mixture of colors. i dont know if powder coating is your business, but i know that its not basic thing to do, and you need expensive equipemnt to do it right. powder coating done right, will outlast any paint, handsdown. when they try to remove powderocat and have to have it repowdered, its on there so good that it can not even be sandblasted, cause the saind just bounces off the poeder.

This was a Eastwood product and done in my home shop.

Every time I cleaned it and re-heated the block seamed to off gas more dirt(for a better word) and finally I said it was good as is, clean.

It's been a few years now and I think the block had to be at 400 or 350 degrees before powder coating.

I ended up hitting the first time than baking, than when that was qurred I hit it again with more powder. All on the same cook time.

This is the side of the block as of last year. Before I painted it with HT paint.

The POR-15 keeps the heat in the motor, not good.

First try. Looked good!(2005) NOT

http://photos.imageevent.com/terryandlinda/pwrebuild/large/20.jpg

[Flatie46]

Wouldn't it be hard to powder coat an engine and get good results. I know the surface has to be free of any grease, oil or cleaner. Looks like that'd be hard to do on an engine. I would think once it was in the oven and got hot, oil or what have you would weep from a hole somewhere. Then thats the spot it would flake off. I know you can have a block dipped to get all the crud and stuff off but then there's what they dip it in. I guess the pro's know how to handle it though. If you don't mind me asking what do they charge?

[Suddensix]

I did this about 3-4 years ago.

I heated the block up 3 times to off gas the casting and cleaned block each time.

Then Powder Coated block 3 times for good coverage.

Looked good first year, second year a little green showing around the edges.

Last year removed as much PC as I could and used HT paint.

Save your money and use a good High temp. paint.

Terry

What are those neat air cleaners off of???

[michael.warshaw]

I have powdered before but i am a novice, i took my block to a powder coating company, who media blasted the block, and powdered it with 3 stage color, ill get pics soon. They also put the block in a dish washer type of thing before they blast it to really clean the grease off, powder is the best way to coat any type of metal part,s its just the most costly. It lasts 1000 times longer than paint hands down.

[Flatie46]

I guess I'll just stick with paint. Less hassle, mines gonna be a driver anyway.

[michael.warshaw]

paint is great for a driver, but it doesnt last, on my 87 grand national i painted the motor, a year later it didnt look as good. im a big fan of powder coating and ceramic coating.

[Andydodge]

Mike, won't the powder coating reduce the blocks ability to shed heat?......also no question regarding its good looks but it should also reduce the points allocated in a concours display as there is no way the powder coating is anything like the original silver paint........would like to see pics when done, Mike......thanks, andyd

[Joe Flanagan]

I don't know if it's just me but it seems like this makes about as much sense as powder coating the inside of your exhaust system.

[michael.warshaw]

I don't know if it's just me but it seems like this makes about as much sense as powder coating the inside of your exhaust system.

i dont get the comment, when you guys seep ics youll say wow i think he might have been right.

[Joe Flanagan]

I'm often wrong and I don't mind admitting it when I am. My reasoning is the engine is going to be dirty all the time. If you're going to be driving it a lot, and you want the engine to look pristine, you're going to have a maintenance sink on your hands. The hoses will get grimy, the wires, the firewall, everything. Are you going to get in there and wipe off the block every few days? If so, then the wires, hoses, fuel pump, carb linkage, voltage regulator, distributor cap, solenoid, generator, and water pump will look dirty by comparison. You'd better get out a rag and clean all those items off too. If you drive it for a week and then look under the hood, I would bet you wouldn't be able to tell whether it's a powder coated block or one that was shot with hi-temp paint. I would sooner be meticulous about the body and interior rather than spend an exorbitant amount on something that won't be seen much and will be natural mess-maker.

On the other hand, if this is going to be a trailer queen and you plan to spend time detailing every bolt, maybe it makes sense. But even in that case, I maintain paint is more cost effective. You don't wind up seeing much of the block once everything is together.

[michael.warshaw]

ill have to agree with what you said. to each his own. paint is cheaper no doubt, powder is $$$$, well see how it turns out.