Andydodge Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 I have acouple of questions about my P11 coupe..... 1. there are a couple of "countersunk" type holes on the side panel when you open the hood......what are they for? 2. what size are the hood bumpers supposed to be on the side panels? 3. the hooded parking light bezels have a large hole at their trailing point or rear where a bolt goes thru into the fender......on my car its just a 3/16th fine threaded sloted screw that is used.....is this actually correct?....did they originally have a captive nut/nutsert type thing? or were they held on by a bolt from underneath the fender into a blind hole in the bezel?.....the setup I have with the sloted screw looks very agricultural.......lol thanks fo any info.......Andy Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT-47P15 Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 I don't know about the first couple of things, Andy, but usually headlight and parking light screws have a Phillips head, not a slot. Maybe your original screws have been replaced. My P15 headlight stuff is just screws - no nuts and bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desoto1939 Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Andy: Onthe countersunk holes that you are refering to are these onthe cowel and when looking at the cowel from the front on the car they would be on the left side of the engine compartment. On my 39 Desoto they were used for the heater two hole for the plumbing of the hoeses to the block and three holes for the bolts that were used to hold the unit to the firewall. I am assuming this is what you are referencing. Pictures of the area will help us to help you with your issue. rich desoto1939@aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claybill Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 andy and desoto39...i wondered about those holes also. they are right next to the hood bumpers..in the middle. bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andydodge Posted May 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Bill, yep the countersunk holes are on the US drivers side panel, above where the hood cable runs........no one have a definate answer regarding the hood bumpers that are on the side panels, there are about 4-5 on each side...............and Bob , thanks re the bezel screws, I had got some phillips head screws for the bezel ends but its a pain trying to reach under the fender to hold the corresponding nut, just thought they might have originally had a captive nut there........., andyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-12 Tommy Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 (edited) :DAndy, Here's a picture of mine on my 41. I don't know what the holes are for either. As far as the parking light bezel screws, somebody put speed nuts under the fender to tighten the Phillips screws. Tom Edited May 29, 2009 by P-12 Tommy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claybill Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 i used one of those holes to put a push button to turn on a hood light. works fine. what is it you want to kow about the rubber hood bumpers..?? bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andydodge Posted May 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 Bill, curious as to what size the bumpers should be,there are 5 holes, each hole is 9/32" in size and from the remnants of old paint that has been poorly repainted over it appears that the bumpers were about 1/2-9/16".......and would still love to know what the countersunk hole beside one of these bumper holes is for.......lol.........thanks, andyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertKB Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 usually headlight and parkinglight screws have a Phillips head, not a slot. On my '38 Chrysler all the screws are slotted. Window moulding, headlight and tail light trim, door handles, trunk handle, grill, big screws on door hinges, etc. all use slotted. When I restored my car, I made a point of using slotted screws whenever possible. Restoration Specialties had a good selection and I used them when the originals were too badly damaged and I couldn't find them locally. I am not sure when Chrysler started using Phillips but I think shortly after. What type of screws are used to hold your window mouldings (trim) in place? I believe Cadillac:eek: was the first car to use Phillips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andydodge Posted May 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 Robert, as this is not a resto, rather a resto rod I replaced all the sloted screws on the window garnish moldings with chromed phillips heads screws, but the parking light bezels still have slotted screws on either side with a phillips head on the trailing edge, am gunna replace all of them with something that doesn't protrude so much.......andyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desoto1939 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Robert: My 39 Desoto has the original philips head screen to hold the door hinges to the frame. Also on my headlight door one of the screws is phillips and the other is slotted. The top screw is phillips and the bottom is slotted. These are orginal since the top screw sits in a raise section that has a cross etched in the chrome section. look in the doors on your cars and you might find various types of screws. I can see why they used the phillips inthe door so they can get a better grip on the screw head. rich desoto1939@aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desoto1939 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Tom: My 39 Desoto had the holes for the rubber but on mine it was one continuous piece of rubber and not individula bumpers. No one is making a single piece of rubber modling so everyone is using individual bumpers. I can not provide any more help but thought that this little bit of history might be usefull. rich desoto1939@aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertKB Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Robert:My 39 Desoto has the original philips head screen to hold the door hinges to the frame. Also on my headlight door one of the screws is phillips and the other is slotted. The top screw is phillips and the bottom is slotted. These are orginal since the top screw sits in a raise section that has a cross etched in the chrome section. look in the doors on your cars and you might find various types of screws. I can see why they used the phillips inthe door so they can get a better grip on the screw head. rich desoto1939@aol.com Rich, sounds like '39 maybe Chrysler started changing over to Phillips screws but my '38 was all slotted, every screw in it without exception. As I said, I kept it that way as well. Best head on a screw is the Robinson which is very popular in Canada where it was invented but not so well known in the US. Apparently China now controls the patent on it so you may be seeing more of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claybill Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 ANDY...there are 4 little rubber bumpers on each side..the 4th one is hidden in back of the hood spring. the countersunk hole is in the middle and ONLYon the drivers side. yes a mystery. the rubber bumpers are 1/2 in diameter and 1/4 in high. on a rubber peg with a bulge on the end so it wont pull out. thre doesnt seem to be anything under that hole either. bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andydodge Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Bill thanks for the info re the bumpers, and am pleased that the countersunk hole has got you intrigued also.....its an odd one.........lol.........thanks again, andyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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