Hounddog Posted February 8, 2009 Report Posted February 8, 2009 Almost completely rewired the car but I have a question about the horn. It didnt work and while taking off the button and the spring the middle wire came out. I have no idea where this wire comes out so i can hook the horn up. Does anyone have an idea where the horn connector comes out of the steering column on a 1946 plymouth? Thanks in advance. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted February 8, 2009 Report Posted February 8, 2009 down the very center of the tube through the sector and out into space... Quote
Hounddog Posted February 9, 2009 Author Report Posted February 9, 2009 I pretty much think thats true, the wire came out of the middle with a connector on the end but I cant seem to find where it comes out in the engine compartment. Quote
Frank Elder Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Dawg, it's the wire that comes out the bottam of your steering column.. there's only that one inside the tube. Shame on you Tim...lol:D Quote
Fluid drive Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Houndog: There should be a wire protruding from your wiring loom in the vicinity of the bottom of the steering sector. Usually these had a bullet type end on that wire and on the steering column wire & a bakelite connector was used to plug them both into.Those horns work by actually completing the ground when you push the horn button so the wire you are looking for should be carrying current and if you ground it with the horn( make sure the horn is working ) connected it should sound. So many times those wires were terribly oil soaked and often damaged because they hang so low. It sounds to me like these other fellows like to sound their horns too but their batteries are low> Used to call them W.W.I's back in the '30s. Quote
Hounddog Posted February 9, 2009 Author Report Posted February 9, 2009 Thanks for the help before I hook everything up maybe I should make sure the horn acually works. One other question is there a original yellow these cars came with for paint? Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Frankie..if one end was obvious..so should be the other...and as the QUESTION was where it came out..I figured the only answer was through the sector as the other end is fixed and still WITHIN the column.. Quote
Frank Elder Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 I'm sorry, didn't mean to get your dander up. Quote
Hounddog Posted February 9, 2009 Author Report Posted February 9, 2009 Sorry the wire was inside the column and the lower hole was caked in grease and dirt ran my finger around until i felt a divot and just cleaned it out and ran the new wiring back up through the column. Sorry sometimes the most obvious questions arent as obvious to some of us. I appreciate the guys here putting up with my rookie questions thank you very much Quote
Frank Elder Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 It's not obvious until you figure it out, we've all been there. Quote
steveplym Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Make sure you put a good, thick wire in the column. Over time from turning the wheel it will rub at the bottom of the column and usually short out. Then the horn will continue to honk. I had this problem. Good thing about learning about your car now and where everything is at is when a problem presents itself, you'll be able to figure it out easier. Good luck with your wiring project. Post some pics if you can. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 This diagram will show where the horn wires should go....... Here's the connection setup for the horn button..... Quote
Hounddog Posted February 10, 2009 Author Report Posted February 10, 2009 Well I have hooked everything up and nothing. I took the horn back off and manually touched the wire to ground it and nothing. I ran a wire off of the battery and touched the horn connector and they both work great. I notice on the post of the regulator it says batt, ground, horn and ign on it. I guess I need to grab the multimeter and test the regulator to see if it is any good. If it doesnt test good anyone have an idea of where I get get a new regulator? Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Try one of your local auto parts stores. Often O'Reilly or NAPA can get such things. They will probably have to refer to a book on their shelf rather than the computer. Quote
steveplym Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Well I have hooked everything up and nothing. I took the horn back off and manually touched the wire to ground it and nothing. I ran a wire off of the battery and touched the horn connector and they both work great. I notice on the post of the regulator it says batt, ground, horn and ign on it. I guess I need to grab the multimeter and test the regulator to see if it is any good. If it doesnt test good anyone have an idea of where I get get a new regulator? I assume you mean horn relay? Does Napa carry horn relays for our cars Bob? If not there are other options. Kanter, Andy Bernbaum, Roberts, etc. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 I was talking about voltage regulators....often available at auto supply. Horn relay.....I don't think so. I went and got another from a car in a salvage yard. The relays are the same on an early 50s Plymouth (or other Mopar) as for a P15. They just were mounted on the firewall rather than the horn bracket. They have four contacts. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 P 15 horn relay. Another view. Quote
Hounddog Posted February 10, 2009 Author Report Posted February 10, 2009 Sorry ya I meant relay...I've called around several auto parts stores but nothing.. There is a classic auto parts store down the road but they only carry Ford and Chevy parts didnt know if anything they had would work Quote
steveplym Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Bernbaums got them for $35. http://www.oldmoparts.com/k.htm Roberts has them for about the same price I think. http://www.robertsmotorparts.com I've used Roberts a lot and like them. Andy B can get a bit irritating sometimes. Quote
steveplym Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Here's a picture of my relay. Are you sure you have it hooked up right? Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 I think that number on the horn relay is HRL 4104.....six volt, of course. Click on link to view. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 The wiring diagram posted above tells just where to hook each wire. From the photos, it seems the top left connector goes to the horns. The entire wiring route goes to some kinda wierd places you might not expect.....so make sure you follow the diagram. I did....at the time I hooked the horns up......and they work. If wired right, then it may be inside the steering wheel horn center. Quote
steveplym Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 The wiring diagram posted above tells just where to hook each wire.From the photos, it seems the top left connector goes to the horns. The entire wiring route goes to some kinda wierd places you might not expect.....so make sure you follow the diagram. I did....at the time I hooked the horns up......and they work. If wired right, then it may be inside the steering wheel horn center. Top left connector goes to the horns, top right goes to the horn button. Bottom left goes to the negative side of the ignition coil. Bottom right goes to the ammeter. Quote
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