Don Jordan Posted February 8, 2009 Report Posted February 8, 2009 I'm in a bit of a hurry now so let me do this quickly I just took the car to the upholstery shop - didn't realize there would be so many questions. I don't think it came with mohair and all I want is original. The seats were brown but they are so faded I don't know what color brown. Is there some where I can get a swatch to match the color? I don't mean to brag but if you don't mind I thought I'd drop a few pictures I'm happy with it (all the grief aside). Still missing stuff but I'm getting closer. Quote
Dennis Hemingway Posted February 8, 2009 Report Posted February 8, 2009 Contact David Maxwell he has all the information on interiors. Dennis:cool: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bojeta/indexpage2.html http://mysite.verizon.net/res0koao/index.html Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 8, 2009 Report Posted February 8, 2009 ...and I'll attach an image of the P15 options. All seat and door panel material was wool broadcloth. If your current fabric looks brown, it was either replaced or is likely an X15 or velour pattern was exposed to so much sunlight and dirt over the years that it appears brown. The door panels in P15s were either taupe, off-white or gray wool broadcloth. Again, they all tend to fade and soil to a brownish color over the years. The headliner was cotton nap and matched the door panel colors fairly close, but could be slightly lighter in color. Most headliner, regardless of color, tend to look like they are badly nicotine stained. You can see where my original soiled to brown where they driver sat Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 If you click on the link in my signature or the one in my profile it will take you to a couple of closer up pictures of the original material. My seats were still the original gray color, but the doors and headliner had turned brown from age. When I pulled it out you could see the material was actually gray where the sun and weather didn't get to it, even in the door panels. It was mohair. Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Norm, the wool broadcloth is often mistaken for mohair. Plymouth did not use mohair during the 1940's. Mohair is a deeper pile material. Wool broadcloth feels similar, but is woven. Mohair is more like a very short cut pile carpet. Material for P15 seats and panels was: Wool Broadcloth and Valuer for most standard vehicles. Vinyl and leather were options in Wagons and Convertibles. Corduroy was an option in the convertibles as well. If you click on the link in my signature or the one in my profile it will take you to a couple of closer up pictures of the original material. My seats were still the original gray color' date=' but the doors and headliner had turned brown from age. When I pulled it out you could see the material was actually gray where the sun and weather didn't get to it, even in the door panels. It was mohair.[/quote'] Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Most Dodge and Plymouth options were pinstriped wool broadcloth or valuer. Chrysler and Desoto had several solid color options which might have been mohair. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Norm, the wool broadcloth is often mistaken for mohair. Plymouth did not use mohair during the 1940's. Mohair is a deeper pile material. Wool broadcloth feels similar, but is woven. Mohair is more like a very short cut pile carpet.Material for P15 seats and panels was: Wool Broadcloth and Valuer for most standard vehicles. Vinyl and leather were options in Wagons and Convertibles. Corduroy was an option in the convertibles as well. David, I'll take your word for it on the seats being wool. However, mohair is not always a deep pile material. I've had suits and sport coats that were a mohair/wool blend and they were about the same as the original material covering the seats in our cars. Quote
Frank Elder Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 David, mine is striped and has a brown material at the bottam of the bench seat and door panels, it must be V, I can't spell it. Smells like a suitcoat to me, I'm guessing Broadcloth. Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 ...in the door panels. Sometimes three different materials; wool, valuer and vinyl in three distinct sections. In 46, Plymouth had solid wool at the top, pinstriped wool below that and vinyl at the bottom, but switched to just solid wool and vinyl in 47 - 49 First Series. David, mine is striped and has a brown material at the bottam of the bench seat and door panels, it must be V, I can't spell it. Smells like a suitcoat to me, I'm guessing Broadcloth. Quote
Frank Elder Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 thanks David, and I can never figure out how to spell vinyl, got it written down now. Quote
David Maxwell Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 ..."cool talkin, slow walkin, good lookin Mohair Sam..." lol... David' date='I'll take your word for it on the seats being wool. However, mohair is not always a deep pile material. I've had suits and sport coats that were a mohair/wool blend and they were about the same as the original material covering the seats in our cars.[/quote'] Quote
JerseyHarold Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Just a thought..... Could the upholstery usually fading to brown be due to the dyes in the cloth not being UV resistant? Quote
Frank Elder Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Non UV resistant fabric and no tinted glass would surely advance fading. Like the "buckskin" vinyl used on mopars in the 80's turned green due to exposure. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 ..."cool talkin, slow walkin, good lookin Mohair Sam..." lol... Don't think I've ever heard of that song. But.........I like this part better. "I said fast talkin', slow walkin' Good lookin' Mohair Sam..." Had those suits and sport coat back in the 60's. Had them hand sewn while I was stationed in Seoul, Korea by a Korean national. Those suits and sport coat wore like iron. And, you didn't need a topcoat even during winter in Chicago or here in Milwaukee. They were nice and warm without a topcoat. Quote
steveplym Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Don your car looks awesome inside and out. It really turned out nice. I can't wait to see it with the interior done. Good luck on the interior project. Looks like David has given you a wealth of info here. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 "Mohair Sam" by Charlie Rich. Here's the original version on YouTube. (while he still had dark hair) Max and I play it from time to time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO6JJohhJBk Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 S M S fabrics likely has that material. If you contact them, I think they will send samples. They keep a few rolls on hand.......... http://www.smsautofabrics.com/ Quote
Normspeed Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Thanks for the link Bob, great video. Don, your car looks great. I really like the dashboard in that shade of blue. Quote
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