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no I have actually gone mad! the 39 is still sat at the port for some reason, so the theory is if I send 2 over it works out cheaper for the container??..also this one could be sold on straight away on entry in the country to some rock n rollers, which will pay for the 39. okk thats the theory tha I´ll tell my mum and wife, and it depends wholly on not falling in love with both at first sight!! the chrysler boasts 18000 miles and complete with the hemi etc...cost 1500 dollars!...impolite no to I´d say!

well thats a good job Robert because I´ve just put a deposit down on this!

quick question!, would a 54 chrysler new yorker fall under the umbrella of this forum? its mopar v8 not sure on the limits of the forum. still waiting for info from NJ on the dodge and in the meantime I´ve been window shopping!

welcome from another newby, get some pix on here mate! sounds great

thanks robert thats great, really useful, but I´m surprised the cross members arent drawn on (where the prop shaft goes through) heres a pic I found on google showing the chassis as I understand it Ray I think Mom was right. spain is overrun with paper pushers , god alone knows what will happen when it reaches our shores! wayfarer, yep thats what I´m hoping, but I kind of don´t want to cut anything from the massive loom (in 3 parts) until I actually hear the engine running, then trial and error mixed with info from the manual should indicate which wires can be pulled out. andy, great sedan there, its always nice to see pix of the thing as there is very little on the google searches. also I´m trying to figure out the stance that I want.wheel combo etc. and yes I´d heard that the older jags are more user friendly, and I looked for one but immediately the scrap value was about 2000€. to be honest the fabrication on the chassis for extra supports etc doesnt worry me at all as its easy to weld the thicker steel and both front and rear cross members contain the whole suspension so it ought to be quite straight forward...if not normal. the trick will be to make any chassis changes look like they are stock, to confuse the inspectors here!

I have to say all this encouragement and the measurements so far push me towards the jag set up straight from the beginning. I think I´ll set myself a limited time period to get the flatty working again but with the end aim being the jag install. (assuming its allowed) heres a pic of the jag engine from the front . I´m not sure how offset it is. the distributor could be notched into the inner wing as it takes about 5 inches of width on its own the thing in the front of the fan is the oil cooler

wayfarer, there are disadvantages in using the jag set up, basically its a very complex car. I have everything still, the loom was taken out intact and its full of extras that I really don´t need or want, electric roof, mirrors, windows, central locking, ride stabilizer, headlight washers! , auto ride control and all that rubbish. at the moment I have no idea how to do what I would need to do to reinstall it ...I have a manual!...but it is all a bit scary. also the rear diff has a bad reputation for eating bearings, however mine seems to be ok so far, it has 60000km on the clock all this preliminary stuff is a big feasibility study..it is also very nice to know that people will back me either way, as I doubt i would be capable of this project without a decent forum behind me

ooooohhh! this forum is the best..already! jim ! err I don´t know, anything ! everything!..any info would be great its very frustrating not having the car here total width at the rear arches would be useful for the rear axle and wheel choices. and basically any fotos at all, cheers in advance! plymouthy adams, I think I´ve just found some pix of your plymouth, looks great do you have a build thread on it?

hmmm ! so it looks like the engine bay is only 29inches from radiator to bulkhead and I need 10 inches more. I wanted to try the feasibility of reusing the lovely big dodge radiator but the jag radiator is only about 1.5 inches thick so I can gain some space there...its gonna be tricky. the width is what bothers me most, will I need to loose the inner wings? yes the jag was a unibody, the trans was spring mounted to a fancy crossmember fixed to the tunnel (which I have), and the IRS need 2 laser cut pads welded to the frame somehow, but there are only 6points of contact so should be easy enough to rig up. the drive shaft is a 2 x UJ piece also so that´ll help. I just hope I can reuse as much of the original chassis as possible ( I love the x frame detail) but I hope Its not past its sell by date!! I have the steering set up also just in case, but the steering wheel and controls need to stay original ofcourse. which will be interesting !!!the speedo cable for example ??

you can ( and I do ) weld stainless and aluminium with mig also, stainless needs a different mix of gas (more argon I think) and alumnium is pretty much solid argon. welding the alu is definitely cleaner with tig though

you see !! that is the typical barn !!!! hahaha nice schwinn..I used to make my own lowrider bikes before the kids were born

thats incredibly cheap!, does it use that weird wire with the inert material inside or does it need a bottle of argon /co2?. the bottles I use are expensive and you need to have a contract for them, but they give a cleaner weld. mig is easy as squeezing silicone around the sink in your bathroom. tig is a tricky 2 handed job much cleaner but much more expert. mig is the coolest of the welding systems that I know of, which is obviously very important for thin steel sheet one possible advantage of a small cheap mig is it could be much more useable for the small power ranges than my big stuff. get an automatic helmet also obviously

ooohhh ! thats interesting to know, there is a link between dodge and spain in that apparently spain produced the dodge dart in the 60´s..thats as far as my knowledge of the subject goes, there is a dodge club here but for 60´s stuff..so not much use

the daimler engine will need at least 75cm in width (29.5 inches) assuming air intake is rejigged and all the other bottles etc are hidden elsewhere. minimum depth from fan to bulkhead around 1m (39 inches) and width from wheel bolts to wheel bolts at the front is 145cm 57 inch and 153 at the back ??(weird could be wrong) 60 inch does anyone happen to have a tape measure and a 39 dodge on hand?? (in my minds eye you all have huge barns with 5 or 6 project dodge and plymouths in!! ) I would love to know the width from inner wing to inner wing, and the rear axle width (to the wheel fixtures) cheers if possible sig

thanks for the welcome folks I´ll answer some questions., no the rear bumper was tied on with rope or something I think..very annoying but I´ll make another or find something similar I hope., the rear light lenses are theoretically inside the car along with the air blower thing for under the dash (I hope) yes the horns are ace, and the ram will all stay at all costs. and yes it is only polite for the old girl to try and get the flatty going first before tear down. the jag ide is not written in stone but is a good backup if things start to get unfeasible with the original setup. also I beleive they will give me a 6 month window to get the car registered, by which time it should be in its final (ish) state (any engine changes after that will be expensive to re-register) there will be a lot of "playing by ear" in the first couple of months according to what I find. the jag engine size ?..its big, i´ll measure it now, I have no idea whether it´ll fit in the (very vertical looking) original engine bay.. I cut the original drive tunnel out of the jag also just in case. the jag and the dodge have very similar wheelbase and weight. the jag engine is good for 200 hp yep rear wheel drive for sure, I took it out before the tear down and had a lot of tail out action with it on the lanes behind the house by the way merle, I really like the chrysler daimler lateral post rationalisation !. i´ll say from now on that it was an intentional choice

and heres some of the donor parts ..... do you see where I think I´m going with this?, I hope so because I´m not sure yet, depends what I find when the car gets to europe!, should be fun though. in its defense, the jag engine is also a straight 6, and at least its from a quality car and not some silly toyota or something all thoughts and ideas are welcome please, you guys know a miliion times more than me about all this stuff cheers for now sig

some more..

Ok hi chaps, time to introduce myself due to the impending arrival of my ( by far) biggest project to date. I´m sig..(thats what they call me) I´m british but have been living in spain for the last 20 years. ex architect turnrd furniture designer making one off contemporary stuff in steel and stainless. anyway since finding a pile of old custom car magazines in a tip when I was about 8, I´ve always been into classic car design with an edge, hidden speed and tricks with stock externals. so the problem with spain is that they don´t really have a car culture to speak of. the dictatorship until the mid 70´s meant no-one owned any interesting cars, and therefore there are very few to renovate. The sale pages are full of 2cv´s, old SEAT´s and the odd renault. most of the cool stuff is brought down from france (the citroen DS´s, the strombergs etc), but this is expensive. so unintentionally one day I looked to see what US ebay had going on and found a 1339 luxury liner sedan within 1 minute, at a price of a 2cv with papers over here! without too much thought (as is usually my case) I was in touch with the seller and we struck up a working relationship. anyway long story short, its now mine and sitting in NJ port waiting for the slowboat to barcelona. this has given me a time frame to figure out exactly what I am in for!. the floors are riotted out, and the chassis is pretty pitted but I hope saveable. body pieces are all there and the dash is ok. it has the flatty 6 in and 3 on the tree. unfortuantely the rear bumper is somewhere on a roadside between north carolina and new jersey, during the first part of the voyage now I have been informing myself and the idea of 80km/h top speed worried me so whilst looking for a rear axle change I happened across a 1988 daimler/ jaguar for 300 €!, working 3.6litre automatic leather interior etc etc.this seemed to be too good a bargain for spares so it was bought a couple of weeks ago and has since been stripped of everything and chopped up waiting the scrap man. you see , its important you all understand, that this is spain, there are no spares for a prewar dodge or a flatty. transport and import charges from the states are stupid, so I´ll be limited to using euro stock . this will be no traditional rebuild, it can´t be..besides being british, my idea of traditional is very different to the american version. I say this because of all the grief some people get when mentioning engine swaps and the like. In this case is kind of out of neccesity. I hope you all understand (if not agree!) that said, I massively respect all the original features of the car, even if they are wrecked I want to keep it as antique looking as possible to all but the inspecting professional eye. ok so you´ll be wanting to see the specimen in hand these are the pix from the seller, as obviously I havent seen the car yet

loving that grey colour..much more elegant than black on this car I think

can´t help with the colours I´m afraid, but I needed to chirp up and say this is probably the most inspiring thread out of the many that I´ve read in the last couple of months regarding body restoration on these cars. I will be attempting something similar on a 39 dodge soon.It is quite unlikely to reach your standard but it is always great to have perfection like this in mind. very well done