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[CayoRVInc]

Hi, I'm new here and own a pilothouse Dodge myself but a friend of mine, Dave, currently has 2 and is working on acquiring 2 more. I have had other brands and currently am building a 46 other brand truck. Anyway we aren't "one brand only" kinda guys and want to save as many as we can for our own enjoyment and the enjoyment of all those who appreciate old iron.

As I mentioned above Dave has several trucks in the works. His 1st is 80 percent done, 1952 2 ton flatbed with hoist. 2nd is a 1948 1 ton flatbed dually which is up and running but needs brakes and cosmetics inside and out.

The 2 in the works are both 1/2 tonners and likely be combined to produce one nice truck.

This week he acquired a big block 413 cu. in. dual carb, dual exhaust, FLATHEAD SIX! He was told this came from a later 50's K series dump truck.

Its stuck and needs to be completly gone through but it's just so neet and unusual it just has to be saved and used.

Now the big question, What are the odds this thing could be shoehorned into a 1/2 tonner?

It looks to be just a bit longer but we think this can be overcome.

We both want to see the looks on guys faces when you open the hood and see this monster.

Anyone ever see one or have any thoughts regarding our "dream"?

[greg g]

Hi! and Welcome to both of you and your corral. Pictures Please!!!!! The engine I believe is 30 inches long if I remember what I read somewhere. You'll no doubt need to make some accomodations for the extra length. Probably toward the front. How much room you got in front of the radiator???

Here's a short blurb from All Par;

Larger trucks used another family of in-line flathead six cylinder engines. There was a 331 cubic inch and a mammoth 413 cubic inch lugger was available in the T series and up. There may have been another engine in the 370 CID range, but I am not sure about that. The 331 was highly regarded in trucking circles as a durable, hard working engine. The 413 was equipped with two single barrel carburetors and had a very large appetite for gasoline. It was noted for twisting the drive sprocket off the end of the camshaft.

[PatS....]

Yes, welcome. As greg wrote, PICS please!!!!!!!! I have never heard of such a beast.

[townwagon]

The 218 that would have been in your 1/2 ton was a 23" long engine, and the 413 is a 30" long engine. That is a head measurement, and doe not include flanges, or the pulleys.

The 413 was last used in early 1955 I think, the K series model year was 1957, after they made this engine.

I think the only truck to use theese was the Y model trucks, C-1-Y6, C-1-YA6, etc.

If you want to make sure it is a 413 look here to see where to find the engine number, and what that number means.

http://t137.com/registry/help/otherengines/otherengines.php

I hope this helps.

Eric

[CayoRVInc]

Don't know if this will work or not.

http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=143916339/a=81734398_81734398/t_=81734398

[Reg Evans]

Have you measured the length of the head on the engine in your photo. Compared to the tire it looks more like a 25' BIG BLOCK.

[CayoRVInc]

No, haven't gotten a good measurement yet or had time to clean off the block to get the engine #. Hope to do that today. We hope to have a chance to evaluate it a bit more in depth to not only see exactly what it is, but to figure out how much is going to need to be done to get her up and runnin again.

I'll let you all know later tonight.

Sorry I only had a few minutes to drive in and snap a couple of pics yesterday on the run. The red 52 is a sweet old truck, the pictures really don't do her justice. All it really needs yet is to get into the wiring and clean it up and to bleed the brakes again. No rust or rot to speak of on her and she runs and drives great. Even the two speed shiifts good!

Dave's other stuff is put away for the winter but I may be able to get some pics of them soon.

[greg g]

Over Number 6 cylinder in the head is a square pipe plug. Removing this plug gives direst access to the top of the piston. Insert a lenght (about 8 inches) of stiff wire into the hole after removing the plug. then rotate the engine 1 revolution (pull the plugs t make it easier) and mark the travel on the wire. this will give you the stroke measurment. since the bores were basically the same on the 251/265, the stroke measurment will then allow you to determin the displacement.

[52B3B108]

Welcome to the site. Wow, what a huge chunk of cast iron!!! That will really be impressive when you get it cleaned up and painted no matter what vehicle you put it in.

[CayoRVInc]

I stopped over and we measured the head and sure enough it is 25" long and 7" wide. I did get the engine # off the block and it read T346 9I42. I figure on doing some research on this tonight to see if I can come up with some more info. It is one heavy chunk of iron but oh man is it cool! Can't wait to hear her come back to life!

[Reg Evans]

Cool ! The T346 engine is from a 54-56 truck and has 265 cubic inches.

NICE FIND !!!

Here's a photo of a set of those manifolds I cleaned up and will install in my truck.

Next time you are looking at your engine can you tell me what the numbers are on the 2 carbs. The numbers are located on the fins over the float bowl on the top of the carb.

[PatS....]

1953/1954, 2 3/4, 3, 3 1/2, and 4 ton should have two E9G1.

For Engines:

3 3/4 inch Bore, 4 5/8 inch Stroke (B-4-R)

3 3/4 inch Bore, 5 inch Stroke (B-4-T, B-4-V)

4 1/16 inch Bore, 5 5/16 Stroke (B-4-Y, B-4-YX)

(From Carter Carb Corp Form 5000A)