Gidday From Oz...some 230 cube questions

[Manuel in Oz]

A list would be great Tony.

The blokes in the Parts Dept must have had fun in the old days :-)

Manuel

[Andydodge]

From what I've found out the small engine, whatever the size, was not as common in Oz, but the 41 coupe definately has the 23", assuming its 201 as the car is stock(pic on the website), and I have a 230 to replace it, tho' I originally was gunna put a 250 Kew in the 41 but the RHD steering box is in the way, it sits between the oil pump and fuel pump and with the 250 etc cube engine having the oil pump 1" forward would mean either the steering box or oil pump would have to go and as the 40 Dodge i have is more rodded I decided to wack a small engine back in, albeit a whopping 29 cubes bigger, but it'll have the Edgy head, HEI dissy,twin carbs etc with a T5 gearbox, EA/EB Falcon wagon disc brake rear end(this will bolt up to the stock springs), P76 Discs & calipers on the stock front end..the front disc conversion is the same setup that the 40 Dodge has had since 1976, the EA/EB Falcon diff replaced the 1962 Chrysler Royal diff that had 1971 VG Valiant front rotors on the Royal hubs with XC Falcon rear disc calipers, this was used from 1976 till 2006.......I rave on a bit don't I?........lol.........andyd

[Manuel in Oz]

No problem Andy.

I know what u are talking about. The EA/B wagons must have had leaf springs. Is the overall width the same?

Manuel

[Andydodge]

Yep, all Ford wagons have leaf springs, the rear axle width disc face to disc face is 61/62", I was using 1" steel spacers each side on the Royal diff to get the 10x15 mags/295 x 15 tyres away from the inner wheel arches, the falcon diff is wider so no spacers tho' the tyres rub on corners but as the white lettering is inside it saves me having to shave the lettering off myself.....lol.....also the rear fenders are 2" wider as I welded 2" inthe whole way around back in the 70's.......andyd

[rockerbillykat]

Hi too all out there!Im another Aussie with a Dodge. its a 1948 d25 Special Deluxe Sedan,problem is it has a flathead out of a 53?Engine no d43216420c. Its a 25 inch head and ive been informed its a 228.1 cid block,does that make it a 230,if so can i run twin carb manifolds with or with out mods.Are these manifolds available in Australia,if not how do i get one here and who can i contact who is dependable and has quality parts!All the posts ive read are great and you all seem switched on to the early Mopar scene so i figure who better to ask.This is a great site and ive learned alot lurking in the back ground and had a lot of laughs as well!Ive done a lot of work on my car so far (cutting out rusted sections under the tail lights, corner floor sections in the trunk area in the corners,front floor sections etc)You get the idea!The back of the car is almost ready too put in undercoat,up to the back doors,toatally stripped back too bare metal(4 undercoat layers 4 topcoat layers).im going to post a few pics as soon as i can work out how to get em on here! Anyway, keep up the great work everyone, it keeps me going back out and having another go when i think its got me beat!Catchyaslater!

[greg g]

Goodday! Welcome. Not 100% familiar with the export and offshore built engines but to the best of my knowledge, any thing that fits on the outside of a 25 inch long block will swap. As far as their availability in Oz, I could only guess. If you know some one with decend welding skills, you could have your manifold modified to accept two carbs. This process comprises blocking off the center carb postion and grafting on some tubing and flanges to accept and position the dual carb set up. Check Don Coatney's photobucket albume. You will see and example made by a fellow in Pennsylvania. Taht model could be followed by any one you knowa how to weld cast iron. Occasionally the long block vintage manifolds like Edmunds, Fenton and a couple of others show up on ebay.

I have see several posts mentioning the 228 cu in engine, so it is not the same as the 230 dimension wise.

Glad you found us and have found the ramblings here informative and entertaining.

[B-Watson]

Hi too all out there!Im another Aussie with a Dodge. its a 1948 d25 Special Deluxe Sedan,problem is it has a flathead out of a 53?Engine no d43216420c. Its a 25 inch head and ive been informed its a 228.1 cid block,does that make it a 230,if so can i run twin carb manifolds with or with out mods.Are these manifolds available in Australia,if not how do i get one here and who can i contact who is dependable and has quality parts!All the posts ive read are great and you all seem switched on to the early Mopar scene so i figure who better to ask.This is a great site and ive learned alot lurking in the back ground and had a lot of laughs as well!Ive done a lot of work on my car so far (cutting out rusted sections under the tail lights, corner floor sections in the trunk area in the corners,front floor sections etc)You get the idea!The back of the car is almost ready too put in undercoat,up to the back doors,toatally stripped back too bare metal(4 undercoat layers 4 topcoat layers).im going to post a few pics as soon as i can work out how to get em on here! Anyway, keep up the great work everyone, it keeps me going back out and having another go when i think its got me beat!Catchyaslater!

No, the 228 engine is not the same as the 230. The 228 is a 25" block while the 230 is the 23" block. Heads, blocks and manifolds of the 230 will be too short for a 228. The 23" block had bores of 3.125" and 3.25" (plus 2.875" for the export engine - X after the model number) while the 25" block had 3.375" and 3.437" bores. The biggest 25" engine was the 264.5" engine, used in 1952-54 Chryslers and Canadian-built 1953-54 DeSotos.

Bill

Vancouver, BC