Coyle996 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) Hey All, I've been digging around the car and this site and have a couple questions. Hope y'all can help. Little back info: '40 New Yorker. Straight 8. Older Restoration. Trans is new, engine will be rebuilt. The goal is a stock driver for around town and weekend drives. 1. What is the correct under-hood fuel routing? There is currently an electric fuel pump and regulator on the firewall, this will not stand. I assume correct routing under-hood is hard line from the font to rubber hose to fuel pump, then is is just hard line from pump to carb? I'm not massively worried about a filter as the fuel tank and lines are all new and stainless, I would rather go factory. 2. Is there supposed to be rubber between the hood and the fender? There are many little holes that look like they would be a perfect spot for rubber nipples to keep the hood from rubbing. 3. Brakes are my number 1 priority, and this car has had some... creative fixes over the years. Is there supposed to be a rubber line coming out of the master cylinder, or is it supposed to be straight to hard line? I have seen "Master Cylinder Hose" for sale, but this looks like later cars? Right now it is master cylinder>adapter>adapter>flare nut>hardline... 4. What are my tire options? My wife wants whitewalls, so whitewalls it is. I've been looking at the Coker stuff. Looks nice. Am I wrong? 5. Pulling the motor. We are removing the hood, front fenders, and cowl. I've read conflicting things. Do we drop the trans before we pull the motor, or pull it as a unit. Trans is new, so we have no real need to work on it. Thanks guys! Edited February 5, 2021 by Coyle996 Quote
RobertKB Posted January 30, 2021 Report Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) 1. Yes. As you think. 2. Yes. Available from many suppliers. 3. Only rubber hoses should be from frame to front wheels and frame to steel line on rear axle housing. 4.I’ve used tires from Coker on three vehicles. I’m very happy with them. I like the look of their re-pop Firestones whitewalls. 5.Much easier with tranny off, especially when re-installing. Hope this helps. I’m sure others will chime in too. Edited January 30, 2021 by RobertKB 1 Quote
Coyle996 Posted January 30, 2021 Author Report Posted January 30, 2021 43 minutes ago, RobertKB said: 2. Yes. Available from many suppliers. Thanks Robert. Do you know which suppliers would have the rubber nipples? Everything Ive come across looks too thick. Looks like I would want only 3/16" thick. Everything looks to be about 1/2" I agree. The Firestone Cokers look right. Quote
RobertKB Posted January 30, 2021 Report Posted January 30, 2021 I bought some for a ‘38 Chrysler I once owned. I think I got them from Steele but it might have been Restoration Specialties. They were a bit high but a utility knife “cut them down to size”. 1 Quote
RobertKB Posted January 30, 2021 Report Posted January 30, 2021 These are two of my cars with the Coker “Firestone” re-pops. Both cars are Canadian Dodges different from US Dodges. They are really Plymouths with Dodge trim. 1948 Dodge D25 club coupe 1951 Dodge D39 business coupe 4 Quote
Coyle996 Posted January 30, 2021 Author Report Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Alright guys. Next question. As this car is a 1940 I assumed it was a 3 speed with fluid drive. Serial number is from 1940, title says 1940. Short question: What transmission do I have?? Long question: I am getting confused. I found this (see photo) on the side of the trans, and I'm guessing this is a Vacamatic part? The interruptor switch? The serial number for this car makes is a super late '40. Is it possible it was built as a '41 at least as far as the transmission goes? The wiring colors are correct to the 1940 wiring diagram, but then there is Vacamatic stuff in the wire loom. For example my horn wiring is 1940 colors (which are different to 1941 colors) but I have the Vacamatic relay on the firewall and looks to be wired as part of the factory loom. The previous owner said he drove it like a standard 3 on the tree. Looking around, where is the vacuum control unit? Thanks! Edited January 30, 2021 by Coyle996 fix photo Quote
58prostreet Posted January 30, 2021 Report Posted January 30, 2021 Check Diamondback tires web site. They have big selection. I have the 215X15 3in. radials. They have been great. I used the Dyna Bead balance beads and am having good luck. Tires wearing nicely..Need to keep them rotated. PS I have a '52 Wayfarer Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted January 30, 2021 Report Posted January 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Coyle996 said: Alright guys. Next question. As this car is a 1940 I assumed it was a 3 speed with fluid drive. Serial number is from 1940, title says 1940. Short question: What transmission do I have?? Long question: I am getting confused. I found this (see photo) on the side of the trans, and I'm guessing this is a Vacamatic part? The interruptor switch? The serial number for this car makes is a super late '40. Is it possible it was built as a '41 at least as far as the transmission goes? The wiring colors are correct to the 1940 wiring diagram, but then there is Vacamatic stuff in the wire loom. For example my horn wiring is 1940 colors (which are different to 1941 colors) but I have the Vacamatic relay on the firewall and looks to be wired as part of the factory loom. The previous owner said he drove it like a standard 3 on the tree. Looking around, where is the vacuum control unit? Thanks! That trans is a R7 overdrive 3 speed. Used only in the Chrysler eight cylinder NewYorker. 1st gear is locked out as the eight doesn't need it power wise. The solenoid is used to kick out of overdrive. Quote
Coyle996 Posted January 30, 2021 Author Report Posted January 30, 2021 58 minutes ago, Dodgeb4ya said: That trans is a R7 overdrive 3 speed. Used only in the Chrysler eight cylinder NewYorker. 1st gear is locked out as the eight doesn't need it power wise. The solenoid is used to kick out of overdrive. THAT makes way more sense. THANK YOU! There was a lot of head scratching today. I guess there is info on this elsewhere in the factory service manual? I'm an electrician by trade and correct looking wiring not on the wiring diagram was causing my head to spin! Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted January 31, 2021 Report Posted January 31, 2021 M4 Vaca-Matic was used from 1941-42...Hi-Lo range 4 speed trans. Six cylinder cars... Windsor, Royal and DeSoto. Quote
Coyle996 Posted February 3, 2021 Author Report Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) Next question about my brake master cylinder. I know this is wrong... I know the master cylinder is incorrect, but that seems to he easy to find. Could anyone tell me how the master cylinder is supposed to mount on this car? Bolt straight to that frame rail on the right, or is there a bracket? Thanks! Edited February 5, 2021 by Coyle996 Quote
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