1938 Canadian Plymouth color & trim ID

[hudson1948]

Can anyone help identify what color this is suppoded to be and also the trim code. Does anyone know what the difference is between the US and Canadian models. Also does anyone have a 38 Plymouth Parts book or any kind of literature that is unique to the 38 Canadian Plymouth.

Charles Salvato, e-mail: hudson1948@msn.com or you can call me at 631-738-7712

[atlbluz]

The master parts list I have lists the U.S. parts and the Canadian part numbers. I purchased this online from e-bay and it is reprinted with permission of mopar. Lists all parts form 1929-1939. That might work for you. If you are looking for anything specific I will be happy to look it up for you. NOTE this is a 2 volume CD set. I think I paid 30.00 U.S. and shipping.

Greg

[greg g]

IM 1506 cross references to a Ditzler color called Maruna Red No. 4

 

http://autocolorlibrary.com/chips/ims/im1495-1514.jpg

[hudson1948]

Is that for the 38 Canadian Plymouth, do you have any info on the trim code ?

[greg g]

It is a Ditzler number that was used by various manufacturers from 1928 through 39.  Different names depending on who used it and when. anothing on trim code.  

[B-Watson]

The "1506" is a Chrysler Corp of Canada code, not a Ditzler code.  Ditzler, DuPont, Rinshed-Mason, Sherwin-Williams, CIL, etc. codes do not appear on data plates of cars and trucks as companies use different suppliers for paints.  And each company had their own code for a colour.  In Canada, paint companies included Sherwin-Williams, Canada Paint and Canadian industries Ltd. (CIL).   CIL had the Canadian rights to DuPont products.

 

IM-1506 is Maruna Red #4 and was used by Reo in 1935.

 

I do not have paint chips for 1938, but do have paint codes back to 1934.  Chrysler of Canada code 1506 is Riviera Blue.   On Canadian-built Dodges it was code 1507, DeSoto was 1508 and Chrysler 1509.   It was used only in 1938.  Sherwin-Williams code was L-3705, a code not used in the U.S. so the colour is probably Canada-only.

 

I have the 1938 edition of the Chrysler of Canada parts book.  The Canadian parts book lists the US trim codes, but not the Canadian.  Instead they advise the dealer to give the serial number and trim code when ordering trim material and the main parts warehouses in Chatham or Regina would supply the correct materials.

 

Being a 1938 model, beware the engine size changed in mid-year.  The first models used US-built 23" block engines (3-1/4" bore), but in mid-year when the new engine plant opened switched to Canadian-built  25" block engines (3-3/8" bore).

[hudson1948]

This car has the larger bore engine, which I think is the Chrysler and Desoto engine. Does any one have a paint chip chart for this model.

[B-Watson]

The Canadian 1938 Plymouth had a 3-3//8" bore and 3-3/4" stroke, for 201.3 cid  It put out 82 BHP @ 3600.

 

The engine size and bhp is the same as the U.S. model.

[TimMuldoon]

My 38 Canadian business coupe is a Maroon color. I have done some checking was not able to track it down. It looks as though you guys have found the color. I am finding it very frustrating tracking down Canadian parts. Charles Salvato is trying help me track down tie rod ends and the tie rod connecting the drag link to the steering knuckle arm. I would like to know why the difference between the mfg locations. The part or tie rod is Canadian only according to my pictures. I see only 2 tie rod ends on American cars . I have read there was a steering change in 38. Anyways l need that 3rd tie rod that threads into the drag link. American is opposite as it threads on top of it. 

[lemondana]

What section of the parts book are the paint codes listed. I have an original 1938 Plymouth Parts Book USA.