TheSkycrane Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 I noticed a lot of the part numbers were off in the brake section so I went through the list and took the time to compile a new list of part numbers and their description. these are all Napa Part Numbers as of 1/4/1012. Enjoy. Napa Brake Hose Front: P/N: UP 10595 Brake Hose End Type : Male - 7/16"-20 & Female - 3/8"-24 Brake Hose Length : 11.5" Caution Statement : Do Not Use w/ Petroleum-Based Fluids - Designed Only For Use w/ DOT Approved Silicone Or Glycol-Based Brake Fluids Per Car Qty : 2 Master Cylinder -NEW P/N: NMC M3241 Finish : Rust-Preventative Finish New Components : 100% New OE Quality Seals Per Car Qty: 1 Wheel Cylinder Left Front- Upper P/N: UP 10580 Bore Size : 1 1/8" Wheel Cylinder Line Thread Size : 3/8-24 Per Car Qty: 1 Wheel Cylinder Left Front- Lower P/N: UP 10582 Bore Size : 1 1/8" Wheel Cylinder Line Thread Size : (2) 7/16-20 Per Car Qty: 1 Wheel Cylinder Right Front - Upper P/N : UP 10581 Bore Size : 1 1/8" Wheel Cylinder Line Thread Size : (2) 7/16" - 20 Per Car Qty: 1 Wheel Cylinder Right Front- Lower P/N : UP 10583 Bore Size : 1 1/8" Wheel Cylinder Line Thread Size : 3/8-24 Per Car Qty: 1 Wheel Cylinder Rear P/N: UP 10588 Bore Size : 1 1/8" Wheel Cylinder Line Thread Size : 3/8-24 Per Car Qty: 2 Brake Hose Rear P/N: UP 10304 Brake Hose End Type : Male - 7/16"-20 & Female - 3/8"-24 Brake Hose Length : 17.125" Caution Statement : Do Not Use w/ Petroleum-Based Fluids - Designed Only For Use w/ DOT Approved Silicone Or Glycol-Based Brake Fluids Per Car Qty: 2 Brake Master Cylinder Kit P/N: UP 143 Per Car Qty: 1 Wheel Cylinder Kit Front- Upper P/N: UP 112 Per Car Qty: 2 Wheel Cylinder kit Front -Lower P/N: UP 201 Per Car Qty: 2 Wheel Cylinder Kit-Rear P/N UP 112 Per Car Qty: 2 Wheel Seal- Rear Wheel P/N NOS 14359 Wheel Seal I.D. : 1.438" Wheel Seal O.D. : 2.441" Wheel Seal Width : .25" Per Car Qty: 2 These are all Napa Part Numbers as Of 1/4/2012 Quote
TheSkycrane Posted January 4, 2012 Author Report Posted January 4, 2012 Im also working on everything I have for the engine as well, take a bit longer as I have about 12 pages to go through Quote
TheSkycrane Posted January 4, 2012 Author Report Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) Oh and I almost forgot this P/N Wheel Cylinder Cup P/N: UP 2936 Cup type: Solid Type Cup Cylinder Diam: 1 1/8" Edited January 5, 2012 by TheSkycrane Quote
TodFitch Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 Seems like maybe I need to set you up with an account on my parts database. . . I haven't been home to check the wheel cylinder kits in my parts book and I don't have them in the on-line database but everything else in your first post of this thread matched up to what I had. I'll check the rest when I have a chance later. http://www.ply33.com/Parts/numeric Quote
TheSkycrane Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Posted January 5, 2012 Thanks and cool site! I have everything i already need as of now, I just did a completer front and rear brake job on my 48 dodge. But in the future quite possibly, I have a bunch of old catalogs that reference part numbers way back into the 50's. All of these were just from my napa parts book. seems some of the numbers in the parts sections were out dated. im working on crossing all of the engine and gaskets right now. Quote
TodFitch Posted January 5, 2012 Report Posted January 5, 2012 Does anyone have a P15 specific parts book? The 36-48 book I have lists one part for the front wheel cylinder service package but there are apparently two packages, one for the upper and one for the lower. My book has a hand written change that says "see card" but, of course, there is no card there. I am looking for the original Chrysler part numbers for the NAPA front wheel cylinder kits that TheSkycrane has so kindly posted. I was able to find Chrysler numbers for the rest... Quote
fatFreddie Posted January 5, 2012 Report Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) These are all Napa Part Numbers as Of 1/4/2012 Actually they are all WAGNER/LOCKHEAD part numbers except for the seal which is a CHICAGO RAWHIDE number. The same numbers have been used since 1946 just remove the UP in front. That is why the rebuild kit numbers are so low. Edited January 5, 2012 by fatFreddie Quote
TheSkycrane Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Which is used by NAPA I didnt feel the need to express the manufacture since no one buys directly from them and NAPA deals right from them.... The whole idea behind the post was to give people the part number so that they can go right into Napa give them a UP 10588 and the guy on the other side of the counter gives you a Wheel cylinder for the Rear of your car. Edited January 6, 2012 by TheSkycrane Quote
fatFreddie Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 The whole idea behind the post was to give people the part number so that they can go right into Napa give them a UP 10588 and the guy on the other side of the counter gives you a Wheel cylinder for the Rear of your car. And that was my post too. WAGNER/LOCKHEAD designed the part and gave it a number. That number is ALWAYS associated with that design of that brake part. Following me so far. Now my post was that number is always that part and NAPA uses the UP part as a supplier designation. Remove that and they still will give you a rear brake cylinder. So, here the good part, all you need to do is go into any Auto Zone, NAPA, O'reilys, Advance, Pep boys...and even your local ma and pa place, give them that number ...10588 ....and they will hand you a rear cylinder after you give them 35 bucks. Now they are made in CHINA but WTF they still work and you do not have to pay Mitchell or Bermbaum a weeks salary for one. I am glad to see you are interested, and putting an effort, into looking the parts up but you must remember to listen to old timers too and not get so defensive. Now if you keep looking you will find that 90 percent of all mechanical parts are stiil available for 1942 and up MoPar cars at your local parts store, and even at Tractor Supply...burn up a coil on the rodd trip just stop at TSC...6 volt coil 24 bucks right on the shelf. If you look the wheel bearings, races and grease seal are the same for a 1950-65 plymouths as a Ferguson TO-20 tractor. And there are many more...... Quote
TodFitch Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 .... Now if you keep looking you will find that 90 percent of all mechanical parts are stiil available for 1942 and up MoPar cars at your local parts store, .... I think you are being conservative with that year range. It may not be 90%, but the first place I look for mechanical parts for my '33 is the local parts store too. I'd say I'm successful the vast majority of the time. So make that "1933 and up MoPar cars". Sure helps if you know a semi-modern cross reference number though as their books don't go back that far. For Plymouth, the 1933 model was a total redesign bringing in lots of stuff that was then used for many years after. So I don't know that you'd have quite the same luck with a '32 or earlier car. Wheel bearings and brakes would be about the same availability, but things like engine gasket sets, etc. for a '28 through '32 could be a problem at your local store. Quote
Harold M Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 On front brakes dont try to use the old push rods( there riveted to the brake shoe) you have to take them of and use the ones supplied with the kit you younger smarter guys plobably know this I just spent an hour trying to figger out why the drum would not go back on Quote
TheSkycrane Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Posted January 7, 2012 And that was my post too. WAGNER/LOCKHEAD designed the part and gave it a number. That number is ALWAYS associated with that design of that brake part. Following me so far. Now my post was that number is always that part and NAPA uses the UP part as a supplier designation. Remove that and they still will give you a rear brake cylinder. So, here the good part, all you need to do is go into any Auto Zone, NAPA, O'reilys, Advance, Pep boys...and even your local ma and pa place, give them that number ...10588 ....and they will hand you a rear cylinder after you give them 35 bucks. Now they are made in CHINA but WTF they still work and you do not have to pay Mitchell or Bermbaum a weeks salary for one. I am glad to see you are interested, and putting an effort, into looking the parts up but you must remember to listen to old timers too and not get so defensive. Now if you keep looking you will find that 90 percent of all mechanical parts are stiil available for 1942 and up MoPar cars at your local parts store, and even at Tractor Supply...burn up a coil on the rodd trip just stop at TSC...6 volt coil 24 bucks right on the shelf. If you look the wheel bearings, races and grease seal are the same for a 1950-65 plymouths as a Ferguson TO-20 tractor. And there are many more...... Im not being defensive if your not being senile. But MY closest auto parts store doesnt use Wagner Brake products so I cant use that number. Because Advance uses Wagner Autozone uses Duralast Napa uses United all of these different companies have different part numbers in their inventory management sysytems. Autozone cannot reference a UP 112 why? because that number does not exist in their computer system. A 112 might but it has a differnet reference number. Just because they can look up the number doesnt always guarantee that they can get it in. No I hope that you can follow this, I know this because I oversee over 5000 distribution centers across the United States, and I know exactly how each company uses its inventory management programs in it SCM (Supply Chain Management) because I have the master program the cross all of these numbers before they get shipped. Quote
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