Steering box internals

[MBF]

Folks - I need some help. I've got play in my 49's steering box at the pitman arm that I can't adjust out. I have 3 tight steering boxes from 51-53 trucks, but the chassis mounts are different. The 49 uses a separate bracket to offset if from the frame, and the later boxes have the mounts cast into the box housing itself. According to my 49 parts manual, the sector shaft p/n is 1196 109, the 2 bushings are p/n 582 880, and the gear/shaft is p/n 1138 282. Does anyone have a factory parts manual for the later trucks, and can they verify if these internal p/n's are the same between the 48-49 and 51-53's? I'm thinking of building a good box from 3 that I have. If anyone has an interchange manual-does the 51-53 steering box fit the 48-50's? Thanks. Mike

Edited October 19, 2011 by MBFowler

[B1B Keven]

Mike, try this?

http://dodgepilothouseclub.org/know/ph_parts/pilothouse.htm

Edited October 20, 2011 by B1B Keven

[Dodgeb4ya]

Sector is the same through 1948-53 for the regular cowl #1196109

Bushings are the same as above application, Part#582880

Steering Gear Tube and Worm -series 1&2 pt. #1196118

Steering Gear Worm and Tube -series 3&4 pt. #1196118. So all parts above fit all 1948-53 1/2-1 ton Dodge trucks.

Both worms are the same part# although my worm Part# differs from yours. My info is out of the 1953 and older Dodge Master truck parts list.

The complete gear assembly is, to best of my knowledge not interchangable between early and late series trucks. The angle of the column is different.

Bob

Edited October 20, 2011 by Dodgeb4ya

[MBF]

Thanks Bob. My concern was that the complete box swap wouldn't work for a couple of reasons. Different mounting methods for the box end, and I knew the column angles were different. Tthe under dash bracket that supports the steering column inside the cab is different (shorter) on the 48-50's vs the one used on the 51-53's. I like the more vertical orientation of the earlier steering wheels. I get older-easier to enter and exit the wheelhouse but ya gotta watch your knuckles on the inside of the windshield with the older design! Mike

[Dodgeb4ya]

I tried swapping boxes a long time ago on my brothers 1950 Dodge panel- would not work. Thats how I learned about this DT issue-and many others!

BTW I think 1138 282 is the box oil seal.

[B1B Keven]

I'm curious as well as I need to fix my '49's steering box.

The parts list on the DPETCA says these parts are the same for all 'B' series trucks.

Shaft...................... p/n 1196 109

Tube w/Worm.......... p/n 1196 118

Bushings................. p/n 582 880

[Charles Furman]

Anybody know any companies out there that can rebuild these steering boxes. I don't have the time or energy to take it on, but mine needs to be rebuilt.