John Burke Posted April 5, 2007 Report Posted April 5, 2007 The powder coater who coated my header for the hot rod called and said it was ready so I drove to Lincoln and picked it up. I could'nt wait so I went ahead and put it on and I really think it looks nice. The coating is an aluminized ceramic coat that polishes out to look very close to chrome. It withstand the heat really well..The cost was $190.00 for this header....I'm not sure how that would compare to chrome but I was happy. He does a lot of intakes and other parts for rodders and restorers...I put my supository style muffler in and took it out for a spin... I need to do a little tuning on the carbs and timming but when I backed off it cackled really nice....John Quote
Dennis Hemingway Posted April 5, 2007 Report Posted April 5, 2007 That looks Good. Dennis:cool: Quote
morson82 Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 John, that looks awesome! I just got some of the engine parts to my 42 Dodge back from powder coating and they look almost brand new!! I am also going to have my exhaust ceramic coated, when I get that far in the rebuild, and am going to use the black coating. Glenn Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 It does look a lot like chrome. Lookin' fine, John. Quote
randroid Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 John, That looks like a killer! I bet a gold anodized intake would off-set that body color till the cows come home, but I'm pretty good at spending other people's money. Really, that is sweet. I couldn't help but notice the "John Burke Racing" warning sign on the cowl, which begs me to ask how second gear is holding out? Nice work! -Randy Quote
Normspeed Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 Great looking setup. The whole makeover really came together well. Quote
Johnny S Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 Very nice.....very nice. And I thought I was too old to be jealous anymore!! Quote
Don Coatney Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 John; Looks terrific. What kind of carbs are those? Quote
billwillard Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 Thats All I Can Say. Cool, Cool Cool Quote
Guest jtw3749c Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 They look good. Do you know if that is the Chromex (painted on) coating or what coating. I'm going to order some Chromex for a friend that wants his manifold coated. I just got my shop setup to do powder coating and was curious. Quote
John Burke Posted April 6, 2007 Author Report Posted April 6, 2007 John;Looks terrific. What kind of carbs are those? Don, they are Holly 94's...Fords of the 50's and so used them. Did you get your package? I sent it by Tennessee mule....John Quote
Don Coatney Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 Don, they are Holly 94's...Fords of the 50's and so used them. Did you get your package? I sent it by Tennessee mule....John No package yet. I will check when I get home this evening. Thanks in advance:) Quote
AJ Johnson Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 Wow. That is dang sexy! I am curious what it sounds like. AJ Quote
John Burke Posted April 6, 2007 Author Report Posted April 6, 2007 They look good. Do you know if that is the Chromex (painted on) coating or what coating. I'm going to order some Chromex for a friend that wants his manifold coated. I just got my shop setup to do powder coating and was curious. I'm not sure exactly what product he uses. I know it is baked on and comes out looking frosted or dull. He then polishes it in a viberating tub filled with small ceramic balls and water and maybe a soap of some sort Quote
tragic59 Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 That's good stuff. Man, I love your car! I spok with my powder coater about the "chrome" powder coating... He said it looks great and almost like chrome on round surfaces. So, your headers are perfect for it. But on flat surfaces, it end up looking dull or hazy when compared to real chrome. Quote
Don Coatney Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 Don, they are Holly 94's...Fords of the 50's and so used them. Did you get your package? I sent it by Tennessee mule....John John; Package arrived somewhat worse for wear. Part of the cow is visible. But all six barrels arrived intact complete with the cow skin. Looks like I have my work cut out to mount all three. Will not happen until after Tulsa. Once again thanks a bunch! This will be a fun project. I can hear it MOO already:p Quote
Guest jtw3749c Posted April 7, 2007 Report Posted April 7, 2007 I've used a few different Chrome powders and most do look a bit more aluminumish then chrome. But I did find one that is probably the best around, so far. Still not Chrome, but a real nice second. As for the ceramic, I haven't tried it yet, but have to order some Monday for a guy that wants me to do his. May even use it on his intake. So I will see how that turns out. Could be interesting. Quote
Normspeed Posted April 7, 2007 Report Posted April 7, 2007 Uh oh, is Don already making contigency plans for a comeback after the BIG RACE? Stay tuned sportsfans... John;Package arrived somewhat worse for wear. Part of the cow is visible. But all six barrels arrived intact complete with the cow skin. Looks like I have my work cut out to mount all three. Will not happen until after Tulsa. Quote
martybose Posted April 7, 2007 Report Posted April 7, 2007 John;Package arrived somewhat worse for wear. Part of the cow is visible. But all six barrels arrived intact complete with the cow skin. Looks like I have my work cut out to mount all three. Will not happen until after Tulsa. Once again thanks a bunch! This will be a fun project. I can hear it MOO already:p Don, I don't know how three of these will work, but I've got a pair of them on my Edmunds manifold, and they work great! There are two issues you will find with them, one obvious, one not so. The obvious one will be the throttle linkage, which works in the opposite direction from stock and has much less throw. The less obvious and more difficult one will be the connection for the electric choke; unless you can space the carbs 8 inches or more apart, the electrical connector will (1) hit the carb next to it, and (2) be impossible to connect a wire to it. I actually widened the top and bottom holes on my Langdon adapters and rotated both of my carbs slightly to get the front carb connection to clear the back carb. Marty Quote
Don Coatney Posted April 7, 2007 Report Posted April 7, 2007 Marty; Thanks for the picture and insight. I was just out in the garage looking at the electric chokes and wondering how to connect them. The choke plates have been removed from these carburetors but John sent them along in a plastic box. John sent 3 carburetors but I will only use two. My current intake manifold is set up on 7.5 inch centers for the two Carter B&B's I am running now. Where did you get your throttle linkage hardware? I like the idea of progressive secondarys. Quote
John Burke Posted April 7, 2007 Author Report Posted April 7, 2007 I've used a few different Chrome powders and most do look a bit more aluminumish then chrome. But I did find one that is probably the best around, so far. Still not Chrome, but a real nice second. As for the ceramic, I haven't tried it yet, but have to order some Monday for a guy that wants me to do his. May even use it on his intake. So I will see how that turns out. Could be interesting...Yes, I would like to know how it turns out for you.....are you doing large scale coating or just one-of-a-kind orders????Who's system are you using?.. I know Eastwood sells a set up for powder coating...john Quote
martybose Posted April 8, 2007 Report Posted April 8, 2007 Don, The pillow blocks and throttle arms came from Kinsler Fuel Injection, www.kinsler.com, the pivot shaft and linkage rods are just a stainless rods that I got from McMaster Carr at www.mcmaster.com (an incredible tools and parts source!), most of the linkage rod ends came from Vintage Speed www.vintagespeed.com, and believe it or not, the black powdercoated piece that mounts the pillow blocks started out as an aluminum extrusion for a cheap 24" construction level at Lowes! As they say, necessity is the mother of invention! Marty Quote
Don Coatney Posted April 8, 2007 Report Posted April 8, 2007 Don,The pillow blocks and throttle arms came from Kinsler Fuel Injection, www.kinsler.com, the pivot shaft and linkage rods are just a stainless rods that I got from McMaster Carr at www.mcmaster.com (an incredible tools and parts source!), most of the linkage rod ends came from Vintage Speed www.vintagespeed.com, and believe it or not, the black powdercoated piece that mounts the pillow blocks started out as an aluminum extrusion for a cheap 24" construction level at Lowes! As they say, necessity is the mother of invention! Marty Thanks Marty; I have been using McMaster Carr for years. They are top notch and most orders arrive the next day. John Burke told me he had an overcenter linkage problem when the pedal was pushed far enough to open the secondary. I have placed a call to Tom Langdon to see what his linkage options are. I also need a pair of two to one carburetor base adapters and I understand he sells them. When you mention a "short throw" on your linkage setup is it difficult to maintain a constant road speed? How does that effect drive ability? How do the electric chokes work? Is there a thermocouple regulated voltage supply or a constant voltage supply to the chokes? Do you really need the chokes? Quote
martybose Posted April 8, 2007 Report Posted April 8, 2007 (snip)John Burke told me he had an overcenter linkage problem when the pedal was pushed far enough to open the secondary. I have placed a call to Tom Langdon to see what his linkage options are. I also need a pair of two to one carburetor base adapters and I understand he sells them. When you mention a "short throw" on your linkage setup is it difficult to maintain a constant road speed? How does that effect drive ability? How do the electric chokes work? Is there a thermocouple regulated voltage supply or a constant voltage supply to the chokes? Do you really need the chokes? Langdon has the best price for the adapters, and also has a linkage kit that mounts outboard of the carbs, and, if memory serves, requires a cable throttle. I wanted mine inboard with a throttle rod, so I built my own (at significant expense!). My throttle setup won't work on most cars unless you are using a tall manifold like the Edmunds; I would have used the Langdon setup if I had been putting the carbs on my Offenhauser manifold. The short throw and stiff return springs are not a problem, since you need to increase the ratio to match the throw of our throttle pedal anyway. The electric chokes require a constant, ignition-switched supply with 14 gauge wire. I used them simply because I didn't see an elegant way to keep the choke butterflys open all of the time. I never had chokes on my dual Stromberg setup, and it started just fine. Marty Quote
martybose Posted April 8, 2007 Report Posted April 8, 2007 PS Just noticed that the photo I posted was an old one with the nice, period-correct clear red fuel lines, which I got from Vintage Speed. WARNING; DO NOT USE THESE HOSES!!!!! They didn't get along with modern gas at all. They swelled up and leaked at every fitting, and after 3 weeks of trying to get them to seal I gave up, threw them away and switched to AN fittings with a modern fuel hose. No leaks since. Marty Quote
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