Barry Maxwell Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Posted January 31, 2011 Merle Coggins said: I have a 4 speed syncro-mesh trans out of a B-3-C, but shipping from WI to PA may be cost prohibitive. It's quite heavy. Merle Merle: I think you are probably right about the cost. It does, however, give me something to think about. Dodgeb4ya may also be right. I may know more when I get to the point of checking out the transmission and the gears. Also, I am not crazy about having to learn to double clutch. I know that everyone says that it is no problem, but I am a slow learner (my wife confirms that). Quote
wallytoo Posted January 31, 2011 Report Posted January 31, 2011 i wouldn't discount the possibility of shipping the transmission. it can be strapped to a small pallet and sent truck freight to a dock near you. i bet it could be done for $175 or less. i had a np435 transmission shipped to me from wisconsin about 10 years ago, and it was about $110 for the shipping (which has probably gone up a bit since then). that 435 is just about the same size/weight as the np 4-speed that merle has. Quote
WatchingWolf Posted February 5, 2011 Report Posted February 5, 2011 (edited) Barry Maxwell said: I have no clue why the PO would replace the '51 3-speed with a 41-47 4-speed. Thats easy enough....the four speed had the provision for the PTO. You stated the truck had a hoist and possibly a plow. Sounds like it was a working machine and not your Grandpa's Sunday go to meetin' truck. It was modified to do the job. As for double clutching...here's the 13 step quick version: 1.Push in clutch, shift into 1st, let out clutch while applying pressure to the foot feed. 2.Grip steering wheel for dear life. 3.Remove pressure from foot feed, push in clutch, shift to neutral, let out clutch. 4.Push in clutch, shift into second while applying pressure to the foot feed. 5.Whoop for joy. 6.Remove pressure from foot feed, push in clutch, shift to neutral, let out clutch. 7.Push in clutch, shift into third while applying pressure to the foot feed. 8.Make MOO! sound at a cow in the field you are passing. 9.Remove pressure from foot feed, push in clutch, shift to neutral, let out clutch. 10.Push in clutch, shift into fourth while applying pressure to the foot feed. 11.Panic for a moment because you have forgotten how you got going this fast. 12.Reverse process until stopped, turn around so your truck is pointed toward home. 13. See step 1. Edited February 5, 2011 by WatchingWolf Quote
Barry Maxwell Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Posted February 5, 2011 WatchingWolf said: Thats easy enough....the four speed had the provision for the PTO. You stated the truck had a hoist and possibly a plow. Sounds like it was a working machine and not your Grandpa's Sunday go to meetin' truck. It was modified to do the job.As for double clutching...here's the 13 step quick version: I think you are exactly right about why the previous owner replaced the transmission with a 4-speed spur unit from an older truck!! The extra lever in the truck goes directly down to the PTO cover plate. So, he must have had a PTO unit on it - probably to operate a pump for the hoist on the back (as noted earlier by Dodgeb4ya). BTW, your 13 point process for double clutching convinced me that, since I'm an old dog who doesn't learn new tricks easily, Merle's 4-speed helical gear transmission is looking better and better to me!! Quote
Merle Coggins Posted February 5, 2011 Report Posted February 5, 2011 Barry Maxwell said: BTW, your 13 point process for double clutching convinced me that, since I'm an old dog who doesn't learn new tricks easily, Merle's 4-speed helical gear transmission is looking better and better to me!! It would also put the shift lever in the proper place for your cover plate. Remind me what part of PA you're in. If you can wait a bit, I believe I'll be going down to Asheville, NC in early April. Maybe I can schedule in a detour on the way down. Merle Quote
Barry Maxwell Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Posted February 5, 2011 Merle Coggins said: It would also put the shift lever in the proper place for your cover plate. Remind me what part of PA you're in. If you can wait a bit, I believe I'll be going down to Asheville, NC in early April. Maybe I can schedule in a detour on the way down. Merle Merle: I am on a farm outside Lewisburg, Pa., about 60 miles north of Harrisburg on Rt. 15. If we can work something out and we are really out of the way for your trip, I will arrange to meet you anywhere close to your route to NC. I will send you a PM or email to find out more about your transmission. I am interested. Quote
Merle Coggins Posted February 5, 2011 Report Posted February 5, 2011 It looks like it could be possible. It looks like around 11-12 hour drive to Lewisburg. Then I could drop down to 81 in Harrisburg and that'll take me down through Bristol to 26, then south into Asheville. (another 9 hours) I could make it a 2 day weekend trip. Too bad this training session isn't in Williamsport. They hold training at the Tech College there sometimes, but not this one. The last one I attended in Williamsort I had the chance to meet up with Jim Roach in Berwick, Dave "greybeard" Erb down in New Holland, and Allan Parkhurst near Youngstown, OH on the way out there. It was a fun week. I think that trans is out in my shed. I'll have to trudge through the snow and get some photos for you. Then we'll see what we can work out. Merle Quote
Barry Maxwell Posted February 6, 2011 Author Report Posted February 6, 2011 Merle: Assuming that everything works out, if you can come to Lewisburg, that's great. Otherwise, I can meet you anywhere along your route. We are about 1-1/4 hr. from Rt. 81 near Harrisburg. I agree that it is too bad that your training session is not in Williamsport. We are about 1/2 hr. south of there. Regarding Dave Erb, I saw his truck and took some pictures at a truck show last June. Dave was not at his truck when I stopped by (at least twice), but I did spend time with his wife and sister-in-law who were on chairs behind his truck. Seemed like nice folks. I sent you an email yesterday (Sat.) with a few questions about your transmission. Hope you got it. Quote
Merle Coggins Posted February 6, 2011 Report Posted February 6, 2011 Got it... we'll continue this via email and hopefully we'll get to meet in April. Merle Quote
DollyDodge Posted February 8, 2011 Report Posted February 8, 2011 I would add a couple things to the double clutching method. When you shift to neutral between gears, it is not necesarry to let out the clutch all the way, maybe even less than half way. All that is needed is a short quick out and in then move up to the next gear. When downshifting it is necessary to increase engine RPM while in the neutral phase, before trying to move the gearshift level to the lower gear. Quote
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