mechresto Posted January 24, 2011 Report Posted January 24, 2011 Hi all, Been a long time lurker here and I now need some information: I purchased a "new"1949 B1F last year, A little clean up from sitting for 60 yrs and i drove it the 220 miles home with no problems and have been using it ever since with never an issue, The break-in period has now passed and it's first full service shows everything to be in excellent shape, the original tires are going to have to be replaced as dry rot has softened the tread but thats a small price to pay. To my question, I have been looking for a 5 speed trans with OD for the dodge trucks for many years and have struck out, originally wanting it for my '53 dump truck, but that has been retired so now i want it for the '49. As this is an original survivor truck I don't want to chop or alter anything, I need an original 5 speed spur gear trans (no synchro for me). Does anyone here have one? or know where I could pick up a good trans or even a rebuildable core? Bryan Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted January 24, 2011 Report Posted January 24, 2011 I've got one, sorry not for sale -way too hard to find! Only one I've ever seen in 30 years of being in old Dodge trucks. It's in my 2-1/2 ton dump. Bob Quote
mechresto Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Posted January 24, 2011 Dodgeb4ya, would you do me a favor? could you post or email me the trans numbers off your five speed? that info will help me immensly in my search. the case numbers will tell me in which direction I have to continue looking, ie studebaker, gmc, etc.etc. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted January 24, 2011 Report Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) Dodgeb4ya, would you do me a favor? could you post or email me the trans numbers off your five speed? that info will help me immensly in my search. the case numbers will tell me in which direction I have to continue looking, ie studebaker, gmc, etc.etc. Mine is a syncro 5 speed OD trans. You stated you want a spur gear non-syncro OD trans? Here are a couple pics of a 52 Dodge 5 speed syncro-OD in my dump. The OD case will have a "OD" stamped at the rear of case by the drain plug. Non OD transmissions are stamped "R". The medium duty dodge trucks, up to 2-1/2 ton use a 'New Process" transmission found and used only by Dodge. You will have to find one out of only a Dodge truck from 1948-1953 up to 2-1/2 ton. Look at the H through K series dodge trucks. Bob Edited January 25, 2011 by Dodgeb4ya Quote
mechresto Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Posted January 24, 2011 Thank you very much. The clark 204VO trans used in gmc,and a few others has the same guts but slightly different case and MDG, thats why i was inquiring as to your case numbers. theres a few junkyards near me with gutted cases. see where i'm headed? if I can find a case, I can use the majority of the internals from the more common clark units to build a trans. It's either that or wait another 15 yrs for one to show up.... Quote
ggdad1951 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Posted January 24, 2011 got some pictures of your find? Where did you find one that sat for 60 years? Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted January 24, 2011 Report Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) Thank you very much.The clark 204VO trans used in gmc,and a few others has the same guts but slightly different case and MDG, thats why i was inquiring as to your case numbers. theres a few junkyards near me with gutted cases. see where i'm headed? if I can find a case, I can use the majority of the internals from the more common clark units to build a trans. It's either that or wait another 15 yrs for one to show up.... I have another cracked "NP" regular 5spd case thats the same as my OD truck and easier to get #'s off. I'll get those for you. My Moly Block 4 tonner uses a Clark 290. I went through what you are trying to do with Hollanders/parts books ect and then stumbled across a deceased private collector who had lots (20-30 ) of the medium to big big Dodge trucks back in the very early 80's and was able to buy the 1952 dump bed OD truck. This 2 spd rear axle OD truck is heavy and weak in OD on slight hills and the Dodge factory Salesmans book warns of this issue to prospective new truck buyers! The OD sucks all the power out of the 251 engine and would be worse with a 236 with any heavy bed or chassis.. Bob Edited January 26, 2011 by Dodgeb4ya Quote
mechresto Posted January 26, 2011 Author Report Posted January 26, 2011 Looks like you've already been down the road i'm trying to travel ! advice well taken, am going to keep my eyes open for an OD trans though as most of my driving is empty to light loads (< 1.5tons) I use it for shop use and take it on service calls. It never fails to bring a smile. Quote
mechresto Posted January 26, 2011 Author Report Posted January 26, 2011 (edited) got some pictures of your find? Where did you find one that sat for 60 years? Here's hoping it works this time. The truck sat in a firehall basically unused, 4300 miles, it had a pump mounted on it presumeably to fill tankers? The gentleman I bought it from couldn't seem to sell it as no one would believe him as to the actual mileage, one test drive and i gave him what he was asking and drove it home. The red paint is peeling off all over the truck revealing the original Blue underneath Bryan Edited January 29, 2011 by mechresto adding link to pics Quote
ggdad1951 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Posted January 30, 2011 wow, and I thought my "find" (family don't count as a "find" IMO) was clean, you are going to have so little to do body work wise! Quote
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