Cpt.Fred Posted August 3, 2010 Report Posted August 3, 2010 i ordered a bunch of parts from andy b. including all the seals and gaskets for the bottom of the engine, because my car leaks like a drilling rig and i hate to jump out of the car and place a cardboard piece under there every time... the package came but the front seal wasn't in it and it seems they're out of stock. i was then browsing VPW's website and they only have parts for 218 and bigger... i guess they're the same, but i wanted to know for sure from someone who really knows and not just guesses... thanks! fred Quote
Andydodge Posted August 3, 2010 Report Posted August 3, 2010 Fred........I assume that you want the front crankshaft seal, the one that pressfits into the timing chain cover?........or do you want the seal that fits into the front of the oil pan?..........both leak like a sieve..........lol.......the pan one should come with the rest of the oil pan gaskets and is the same right thru to the end of the 23" engine as far as i know, its made of cork and if you are carefull it can be reused with a coating of silicon ........the timing cover oil seal might be available thru a normal bearing/seal company but you'd have to take the old seal to them to have the numbers on it cross referenced.........also check if its the crank seal that there isn't a groove worn into the crank surface where the seal has sat, you used to be able to get a thing called a speedie sleave that was a very thin stainless steel sleave that was a tight press fit onto the crank seal surface that provided a "new" surface for the seal to fit against........ain't old cars great!!!!..........lol..................AndyD Quote
Cpt.Fred Posted August 3, 2010 Author Report Posted August 3, 2010 hey andy, still awake and tiping away, i see.... i think we're talking about the crank seal, the others were included in the oil pan gasket set, if i read andy b.'s catalog right. i haven't pulled the pan yet, so i do not know what it all looks like, but from my experience it must have something to do with that seal and i want to replace them all if possible when i have the pan down. Quote
Andydodge Posted August 3, 2010 Report Posted August 3, 2010 Fred...........geese I rave on........anyway as far as I know the timing cover seal that goes aroung the crank is the same for all 23" engines, 201-230 cube.........andyd Quote
Cpt.Fred Posted August 3, 2010 Author Report Posted August 3, 2010 ok, thanks! i'll try my luck with VPW then. Quote
Andydodge Posted August 3, 2010 Report Posted August 3, 2010 Fred, if you are just pulling the pan then you should have the pan side and front/rear gaskets.......to get to the crank oil seal you have to pull the crank pulley as well as the pan as I don't think you can get the timing cover off without accessing the bolts inside the pan at the front..........andyd Quote
P-12 Tommy Posted August 3, 2010 Report Posted August 3, 2010 You have to pull the pan to get the timing cover off? Tom Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted August 3, 2010 Report Posted August 3, 2010 (edited) Timing cover will come off with out pulling the pan for sure. Edited August 3, 2010 by Dodgeb4ya Quote
Andydodge Posted August 3, 2010 Report Posted August 3, 2010 Thanks for the correction........it was late and didn't go check the car..........lol.................andyd Quote
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