Transmission Spreader Spring - Need

[Bobandy]

Hey Guys,  A couple years ago or so I needed a Fluid Drive 3 speed transmission...  I now have a good transmission installed and operational.  In the process of searching, I also picked up a "transmission in a box" (no joke) that was suppose to be complete... only needed to be reassembled.  Well, I'm still trying to find parts to finish it up (will keep as a backup).  The only thing I'm missing is a couple of Spreader Springs that pair with the Synchronizer Stop Rings.  At first I didn't know the name of this part..  I found it (the name) in an old Chilton Repair Manual.  The transmission breakdown in my Dodge repair manual doesn't show these spreader springs at all.  I'm guessing (don't know for sure) that each stop ring must be paired with a spreader spring....  The transmission is 49 - 52 Dodge and probably others...   I don't currently have a Parts manual.  Plan on ordering one soon.  Bottom line,  I'm looking for a couple of these spreader springs.  Anyone happen to have a couple that you could spare or know of a good source??   I have both Stop Rings and they are in good shape.   Thanks,  Bob

[dpollo]

 Not all transmissions used them. I have seen them on high gear synchros only  and second gear synchros only. I cannot recall

if I have seen them in both high and second.

 

It makes me think that they may have been installed  only if there was a problem.

[Bobandy]

 Not all transmissions used them. I have seen them on high gear synchros only  and second gear synchros only. I cannot recall

if I have seen them in both high and second.

 

It makes me think that they may have been installed  only if there was a problem.

Thanks for the info.  That probably means there was only one Spreading spring in my "tranny  in a box" because there was only one in use.  I did notice that the snap ring was missing from the front bearing which allowed the pilot shaft to move backwards into the transmission.  The stop Ring was cracked (been replaced), I think due to this and it probably destroyed the spreading spring as well.  Regardless, I need to find a new spring.  Your information probably explains why the spreading spring does not show in the diagram in my shop manual.  Thanks again,  Bob

[dpollo]

  I can supply that part (used)  send me a PM with your address and I will mail one to you

for a very small amount over the postage.

[James_Douglas]

As far as I have been able to determine the spreader spring was used on cars with fluid drive. Both in the M5/6 and the three speed.

 

The fluid couplings with the clutch on them weigh a LOT.  I think that the spring helps to get the syncro and gear to a closer speed faster than waiting for everything to spin down.

 

James.

[Bobandy]

Thanks James.... That does make sense.  I'm a little surprise that there isn't some documentation of that in our manuals...  Oh well... life must go on.  Thanks again,  Bob

[James_Douglas]

Did you get your hands on one?

[Bobandy]

Yes...  Well actually it's on the way.  should have it soon..  Thanks for asking...  Bob

[James_Douglas]

That's good.  I had a heck of time finding a new one when I rebuilt my 3-speed with OD.  I have managed to collect up 2 or three new ones but that has taken a few years.  I found one in a dealership in the mid-west that has all of their parts online.  They had no price in the system for it and sold it to me for the amount on the tag which was $2. Cost more to ship!

 

James

[Bobandy]

Thanks James,  If this one doesn't work out for some reason... I'll come knocking...  Bob