desoto1939 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Did you put the distributor back into the block inthe same location that it came out of the block? You stated that the rotor is in the same location but if you spun the distubutor housing and you marked onthe body where the rotor was point you could be off by 180 degress. I alwasy mark on the block with chalk a point onthe dist as a reference point so I get it back in the same location and also mark on the lip of the body the location of the rotor. Always markup things to make sure you get them back in the same rotation and location to elimiante the possibility of being 180 degrees out. Take your time and alwasy look before you take it apart I can not stress this with the older cars. It looks easy but make it simple for your self. If you put the dist down for a day and then come back to it you have lost your reference poitn if you did not mark it properly. rich desoto1939@aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezeldoc Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 If the motor was not turned over with the dist out as long as the rotor is back in the same spot it will not be out 180 but the static timing will be off, if the motor was turned over their is a very good chance it is out 180. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flattiefreak Posted May 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 someone on a different forum suggested a bad condensor. would a bad condensor cause these symptoms?? im certain that the dist isnt 180 out. i took 2 pics and marked the dist location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezeldoc Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) If you are getting spark at the points when you open them the condenser is fine. was the motor turned over when the dist was out? i could have had this fixed in less time than i spent typing this. not that big of deal, start at the begining and think what has changed since it last ran. Edited May 19, 2009 by dezeldoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flattiefreak Posted May 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 no the motor wasnt turned over when it was out. i always disconnect the battery when working i have just started working on this car for about a year and a half.. im not that experienced.,but i do know what an engine needs to fire. i have fuel, air, compression, spark at the dist but not at the plug wires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flattiefreak Posted May 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 i just confirmed thats the plug wire are getting spark.. shocked the hell out of me when i went to pull the plug wire off the spark plug. im guessing its the plugs . they are fouled due to all the cracking i have done and not starting. how do i clean fouled plugs? or do i have to replace them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dan Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 You should be able to clean the plugs enough (to start the engine) with a wire brush. Are you 100% certain that the engine wasn't rotated while the distributor was out? Any young men living with you that might have showed a buddy Dad's car? You sure sound like a timing problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flattiefreak Posted May 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 yes im positive about the engine being rotated. im only 17 so nobody was showing off dads car. lol i will be adjusting the timing as well as the carb once i get it to fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezeldoc Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) Put a new set of plugs in it and it will most likely fire off, check and see if you can find the mark where the hold down bolt was at on the dist before you started this, if not start in the middle and move it about a 1/2" one way or the other from there. Edited May 20, 2009 by dezeldoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flattiefreak Posted May 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 new problem.. no spark at the dist now. i will get the coil tested tomorrow, if thats not it, i will just have to go from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dan Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 new problem.. no spark at the dist now. i will get the coil tested tomorrow, if thats not it, i will just have to go from there This link has a good basic troubleshooting process for standard ignitions. http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/htm/spark.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flattiefreak Posted May 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 thanks for the troubleshooting page. the coil is fine as well as dist cap, rotor button,im goin g to replace the points and condensor and see if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dan Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 thanks for the troubleshooting page. the coil is fine as well as dist cap, rotor button,im goin g to replace the points and condensor and see if that helps. If all checks out, you should have spark. If you have spark and it won't crank up, try priming the carb (pour 1/4 cup of gas into it). If it still won't start odds are your timing is off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezeldoc Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I am thinkin his carb is what started this, fouled out the plugs and down hill from there. I would just put a very small amount of fuel in, if any at all. pull the plugs crank it over and dry out the cylinders and new plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flattiefreak Posted May 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 its not getting spark at all now. ill be inspecting the points wire again tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flattiefreak Posted May 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 replaced points wire connector, condensor and spark plugs. turned the key and it started right up thanks for all the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dan Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Glad you got it going...Go drive it and have some fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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