JohnTeee

Thanks Tod! Just checked with AutoZone for "13797". Crosses over to Timken 6241S: Seal Housing Bore (in): 2.437 Seal Housing Material: Steel Seal Installation Style: Press Fit Seal Lip Material: Nitrile Seal Outside Diameter (in): 2.441 Seal Shaft Size (in): 1.375 Seal Width (in): 0.25 Anyone have dimensions for the P15 "Wheel Seal - Outer - Rear Wheel"? On AutoZone's 'Check the fit' feature, it says it does not fit the 1947 Plymouth P15 Special Deluxe . . . Of note, when I entered the MoPar Part # "859164" (I had no idea you could cross an old MoPar part number on AutoZone website!), that crossed over to the Timken 6241S . . . Part Number: 6241S OEM Brand: Chrysler OEM Part Number: 859164 John

Hi Robin! That's a good looking car you have! <grin> My '47 is also a Detroit build; need to find out the build date. Has the same dash as yours. Was also originally red! John

Todd, my apologies and that is a BAD number for the brake support oil seal. Just got two SKF 19773 in yesterday and they are too large for the opening in the brake support plate and for a larger axle. Back to the drawing board! John

Thanks James. With where my oil seemed to be leaking from, that makes complete sense. Unfortunately, I found your reply AFTER I got the new seal in place, put it back together and torqued it to about 150! <grin> If it continues to leak, it will be pretty easy to pull things apart again and get something in there. John

Morning Todd, Thanks for your database. I found that when I googled the original 663602 number and cross reference. I'll try to go through my notes and see if I have any other numbers I can add. Are old numbers useful (from the '70s and '80s)? John

Guess I can add a couple of numbers to the 'Oil Seal Assemble - brake support to shaft' Listed: MoPar #859 164 NAPA #19773 Trostel #T7769S Additional: National #3794 (crossed from the NAPA number) CR #19773 Have two on order from my local bearing place for $10.66 apiece. Should be here early next week. Now, to run out and buy a new 6V battery. John

Hi Bob, A gentleman lives just 'around the corner' from me (a couple miles up the State Hwy to the intersection of the next State Hwy) and did indeed have a '49 Plymouth Convertible, black, with a tan top. Have not seen it in a long time, or stopped by there in a long time. Now, it turns out littlemo has contacted me and lives in the area . . . I have to ask him if this is his car. I have a strong suspicion . . . I had not thought about your being in Joplin! I saw your posting about a new house under construction. Did you lose your house with the tornado? Damage to the Plymouth?!?! John

Thanks Tom. I'll look into using something like that. I actually have a hammer pull that I may be able to adapt. Now that I have the seal, and an ideal of how the old one sits in there, it looks fairly easy. John

Hi Tom, Thanks for the reply. Were you suggesting a Speedi-Sleeve for the rear axles? I think the axles LOOK to be in pretty good shape. Don't think the axle oil seals have been replaced in a long time . . . Actually, just went through maintenance records back to 1973 and neither the axle oil seals OR the pinion oil seal look to have been replaced since we've had it! I found a new Pinion Oil Seal at the local bearing dealer. Chicago Rawhide #18880. Ran me $14. My dad thinks that if I have oil leaking from the front of the differential, that this would be the only possible source. The in-place seal is still one of the leather seal type. If anyone can use them (I noticed the parts reference only had the MoPar #), here are some cross reference numbers I found for the Pinion Oil Seal: MoPar #663602 NAPA #18880 National #5851 Chicago Rawhide #18880 Federal Mogul#473240 John

Forgive me fellow Mopar Drivers, It's been almost three years since my last visit. I accuse myself of the following sins: I have neglected a fine piece of Rolling Detroit Steel. My P-15 has been parked in the garage. The differential leaks. I probably have bad brakes. There is a layer of dust on my car. I am sorry for my sins. Please forgive me. OK. That's off my chest. No desecration of The Sacrament of Reconciliation is intended. Just a little pun. It's time for me to get my car rolling again. My 18 year old son wants to take a date out for a spin in it and I really do miss driving it. With the aim of fixing my leaking differential, we've pulled the axle out and have it sitting alongside the car. It was leaking oil out the front of the differential - coming out the FRONT side of the Drive Pinion Flange. From looking at things, I would think that a leaking Oil Seal would cause oil to leak around the sleeve on the back of the flange, inside the seal, with oil coming out the back side of the flange. Of note, the Pinion Flange Nut turned off by hand, with a socket on it. Looks like specs call for it to be tightened to 180 ft. lbs. So, other than apparently having to replace the Oil Seals in the Brake Supports on each side (just had my son pull the hubs to see how the brakes looked - not good in the back), I'd appreciate any thoughts on the differential. The new Pinion Oil Seal looks a bit different from the old one. The old one, with the leather seal, is a little 'Wedding Cake' shaped; kind of like a tire laying on its side with a smaller tire laying on it. The new seal is just a single 'dimension'; kind of like looking at a modern tire laying on its side. So any thoughts would be appreciated on: - Easiest way to pull the old Pinion Oil Seal. - Any other considerations for oil coming from the the front of the Pinion Flange. - Anything special I need to know to put the Pinion Oil Seal back in place. - Anything I'm not thinking of? Thanks in advance. Hope to be back and stay back. John

Watching a show called 'The Cider House Rules' and saw a '46-'48 Plymouth Convertible only it's being showed in '39-''42 - They just watched 'Wuthering Heights' and a secondary character was just shot down flying the 'Burma Hump'. John