Floor insulation opinions welcome

[Norm's Coupe]

What is the R value on the other stuff Norm???

Ya got me by the tail. Have no idea off hand what the JC Whitney stuff says. I'll have to find the label I mentioned for Jim, or maybe it says in the catalog. Maybe it's on there. As for the insulation Bob posted. That's about the same type of insulation used in attics years ago. I believe about 6 inchs of that blown in has about an R 10 or 15. To be honest, I wasn't concerned about how much heat it retained or cooler it kept the car. I was just interested in the noise factor and between the two it did make it about 80% quieter in the car. I did not insulate the doors, kick panels or the trunk.

The only reason I know what the aluminum bubble stuff said on the label is, because I wanted it to patch in bad areas where the old insulation in the garage ripped and was falling down. Then I covered over the walls again with 1/4 inch white pegboard. Didn't want to mess with the regular fiberglass insulation at the time. The bubble stuff was easier to work with, cleaner and didn't have to worry about it itching me.

[Norm's Coupe]

Here's the front side of the label that came with the JC Whitney insulation. As you can see there is no reference to an R value. Guess that's why I didn't remember.

[Allan Faust]

Ya got me by the tail. about 6 inchs of that blown in has about an R 10 or 15. To be honest' date=' I wasn't concerned about how much heat it retained or cooler it kept the car. I was just interested in the noise factor [/quote']

I rest my case.... I ain't puttin 6 inches of anything on my floor.... and as for the noise factor, that is what the eaveguard was for.... the other for me is just a reflective coating to keep the heat at bay.....

Allan

[Jims50chrysler]

There is more than 1 way to skin a cat.....

I just ordered a 4'X24' roll of that insulation that Norm mentioned from JC Whitney as well as the Molded Carpet for my Chrysler.

No I did not win any lottery but I did have it shipped to Dad who is wintering in TX and he can bring it back with him in the spring. I don't have to install it now anyway. total price $226.97 Shipping is free....God has blessed America

(Now if I could only get the old fellow to pay for it.)

By the way who would want to skin a cat anyway.

Jim

[David Maxwell]

...my floor is both quiet and highly heat proofed! I remember when the area above the muffler used to get unbearable. Now it's unoticeable.

I used total Dynamat coverage on the floor followed by heavy upholsterer's felt which was foil backed. Then the carpeting in the rear and a floor mat from Sal Solerno up front. Note: Sal's mat already has backing so I did not double-up the felt in front. There would not have been room.

Dynamat cost for the floor I would estimate at around $100 worth. The foil backed felt I bought from an upholstery supply shop for $35 a roll (I still have a bunch left). Here's a link to the photo:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/bojeta/47%20Plymouth%20Restoration/94a2l.jpg

[Jims50chrysler]

Hows the head room:)

Jim

[blueskies]

Hows the head room:)

Jim

Sort of like a reverse chop, LOL

Pete

[David Maxwell]

...it comes out to almost exactly the same thickness as the original composite material they used. You know, that oily masonite like stuff that smelled and didn't really insulate that well or control vibrations that well. The Dynamat does and excellent job and is much thinner. Then, the felt with foil really helps keep the heat and noise down as well. All of this fit nicely under the door sill mat just like the original.

[BobT-47P15]

Guess I don't mind a little noise and vibration......it reminds me I'm driving

an old car......

[RHDSP15C]

I thought there was a free trade deal with Canada ?

[B-Watson]

I thought there was a free trade deal with Canada ?

If you are a manufacturer, yes, usually. But if you are a consumer, you get caught at times with import duties. As for PST (Provincial Sales Tax) and GST (federal Goods & Services Tax), you get nailed for that regardless of where the item is purchased.

Prior to free trade, Canadian-made goods got nailed with a manufacturers' sales tax while imported good got a various import duties. The consumer never saw either as both were added on before the items were retailed.

With free trade, both taxes were eliminated and replaced with the GST. Which is paid at all levels of sale with the retail level being the last. Manufacturers, retailers, etc. get to deduct the GST paid from the GST collected and send the leftover to Ottawa. The consumer, though, just gets to pay.

Also some items are subject to duties, etc. even if you are not consumers. Some Canadian forestry firms must pay the American government duties for exporting their products to the U.S.

And getting back to what to use your car's carpet, I have gone to the local pick-yr-part yard and pulled out the underlay from cars from the 1980's and 1990's. That material is great for sound deadening. And it is good idea to take enough to place under the rear seat and behind the seat back. You would be amazed at how much noise comes from the rear axle and trunk areas. The very thin materials work great under the rear window ledge cover and door panels.

And if you are not concerned about having a #1 car once the carpet is installed, some careful shopping can provide carpet from a newer car, as well. I did that with a 1965 Valiant - carpet from a Diplomat. The sides had to be trimmed and holes cut for the dimmer switch and seat belt anchors, but the result looked good. And it all cost about $40.

Did the same with a green 1964 Studebaker Daytona (113" wheelbase). Took carpet from a 1974 Fury III 2-door (122" wheelbase) thinking I could cut the width down, and maybe the length. I did need to cut the width, but the length was 4" too short! I cut the carpet in two under the front seat and cut some pieces covered by the front seat and patched up the gaps on the outer sides. Would never win awards, but it was better than the orginal carpet which was unravelling.

Bill

Vancouver, BC

[Jims50chrysler]

As an individual I have not had any benifit from "Free Trade"

and to be honest I have not yet seen any bonus since our Dollar became the Same or better as the U.S. as a matter of fact it has hurt us as all our American based manufacturing has headed South again.

When our dollar was worth 30 or even 40 cents less than the American $ if I ordered a part from the U.S. I could expect to pay double the catalogue price by the time I got the product to my door. That is the same now even though our money is at par (or better) I suspect the couriers are the ones Getting rich here.

I guess I should be gratefull that I am not having parts shipped from the U.S. to Austrailia...that must be a killer

Jim