Guest dmackustom Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 has anyone used the front "clip" from fatman? I decided to go ahead with my project '47 p15. Im going for a low stance Im just at the planning stage but your input is valued. Im having a hard time getting excited about this project as the front end/subframe task seems so daunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dmackustom Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Im all into the idea of spending a little less and not having to subframe. Im not building a show car just something that can be fun and reliable. Dropped uprights and springs should get me the low that I want and disc brakes. what about cleaning up the steering? My steering box is the size of a turkey. Is there a popular conversion? there is barely any room for headers or manifolds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dmackustom Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 If I did go with the fatman clip I would have more options. Airride etc... I love the look of the 41 from KA kustoms in Ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normspeed Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I dropped the rear with 2" lowering blocks and I have a pair of cut down coils to try up front. Tim is right as far as the dropped spindles being a great way to go. For me, I'll try the chopped coils first, like Norm, then if I don't like the ride or handling I'll think about spindles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martybose Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Fatman does sell a spindle assembly that is dropped about 2.5" with the stock spring. Be aware that you will need to convert to disk brakes to use this spindle (I managed to get them to work with stock drums, but wouldn't recommend it in retrospect!), and you should use his brackets to move the top shock mount to the frame. Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dmackustom Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I dont know that I would call 4 1/2 inches of ground clearance low? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dmackustom Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Im of the opinion that there is low, too low, and then just right. I am willing to take the extra time to negotiate road hazards. Ive been driving'em low for awhile and really miss having a project. Im willing to spend the money to do things right, but I dont want to spend the dough on things I dont really need. I have some buddies that are pushin me to do a subframe and they have built some badass rides. I just thought that I would gleen some info from people that truly love the mopars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martybose Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 If you click on my name in this reply and select the first option, you'll see what my 47 looks like with stock springs all around, a Fatman dropped front spindle, and 15" 60 series tires front and rear. Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dmackustom Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 like the way it sits too man. Im hoping to acheive more of a traditional lead sled look. I like the orange wheels! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martybose Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 I have about 5-1/2" to both the bottom center of the front crossmember and to the bottom of the sway bar brackets. Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james curl Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 I have a friend who is installing the Fatman Mustand II front clip. The instructions are very complete, he cut the frame off with a reciprocating saw and we installed the clip which has locater plates in the clip to his frame. The biggest problen that I see with this approach is the $2500.00 dollars that the complete clip costs without labor and welding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob westphal Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 All the stuff everyone is talking about is a lot of work and costly. If you're really lazy and cheap you can go the route I did and just heat the coils. I had to cut the rubber snubbers in half though. It rides well enough and handles well. It only cost a little gas and oxygen. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT-47P15 Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Think I would rather buy new shorter coils than have the heated ones. Back in the 1960s I had a P15 coupe, and had the coils heated to lower it a bit. Don't recall how much it went down, a couple inches perhaps. It rode more roughly after that. Did not lower the rear. The car did not get extensive or hard driving as it was basically a clunker and just putted around town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dmackustom Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 I think its pretty much settled. Fatman clip. with mustang 2 type components. Gives me limitless options: big brakes, airide, coilover, Rack and pinion, drop in ride height and still maintain perfect geometry, completely road worthy so Tim will like it too. And its all new. No need to walk into the parts store with my fingers crossed. Sure it costs more but it will be done right and all dat good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jon Dalrymple Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Hope this image works of my Fatman clip, My original frame had been cracked and rewelded but was cracking again right behind the cross member. Thats why I went this route, it is expensive but am happy with the results. I have 350# rated springs that I had to cut one coil from to get proprer ride hight. It does rides a little stiff and am thinking of changing to lighter coils. Jon D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jon Dalrymple Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 I tried this before, maybe this time. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/NOJ/My%201948%20Plymouth/P2090135.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martybose Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 I can't quite tell from the photo: Does the the old frame get cut off far enough forward to keep the stock clutch and brake setup, if you were so inclined? Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jon Dalrymple Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Marty, The frame is cut right behind the cross member and clip is slide inside original frame. The clutch and other stuff is not affected. I don't have an image handy so hope this answers your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martybose Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Marty,The frame is cut right behind the cross member and clip is slide inside original frame. The clutch and other stuff is not affected. I don't have an image handy so hope this answers your question. It does indeed; thanks! Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Faust Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 In my opinion, I wouldn't cut the coils, I would purchase lowered coils instead.... the stresses on the cut ones would be too dangerous for my taste... Eaton should have the lowered springs... Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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