Wayfaring Stranger

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Basic-Engine-Rebuild-Kit-1942-1948-Dodge-230-pistons-bearings-timing-42-46-47-48-/191262366765?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1948%7CMake%3ADodge&hash=item2c88201c2d&vxp=mtr Pretty pricey.

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ingrave it and hang it on the wall.

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I have 2 wayfarers. one is stock flathead/fluid drive. and will remain so. i started the other thread for people to call me a "blow hard" on,....you posted on the wrong thread. This thread is for people that have,have had, or know something relevent to some-what powerful engines that would work in a 49 mopar product with minamal structual modifications. And a ThankYou to all who have posted relevently. WS

Not sure what you mean by " ...anyone who 'convinces' you to keep the L6 is then on the hook for any and all results... You won't have many takers." could you explain?

Respectfully, I think you are looking at this wrong. What he did was spam and rude. It was very clear the flathead was a NON option in that post. Think of it like this; if "Johnny Hotrod" went on every " how do I replace my fluid coupler" post and said," get an O/D tranny", it would not be much fun to read "Johnny Hotrod"'s Overdriven opinion with oily fingers on his keyboard(worse touchpad), while just wanting to find his coupling answer. It like being in a restaurant and saying to your friend, "what should we do today?". Your friend says, "anything but the park, we ain't going to the park." And man from another table over hears you, leans over and says, " you know what you two should do,...go to the park!" I just wanted a thread to rattle thru different engine possibilties, not to defend agaist the "keep it"s. I have read quite a few swap threads and evryother post is "you know what you should do.....keep the flathead!" And in regards to limited responses....uhhhh,....duhh!? That was the point, Limit the response from people who want to say "keep the flathead" in that post. i started this thread so people could tell me what a turd i am for swaping out a flathead.....(and others could like their post when they do)....of course, I only asked the question about swaping, because I had used parts of one wayfarer to make a stock wayfarer and was contemplating what to do with the restover car. The irony is, I wouldnt have the restover car if i didnt have the bone stock one. different ones, different kinds, stock, Modified, I like em all. Spam is bad in a resturant, but it's much worse on a blog, it's over and done with in the restaurant, but in the blog it lives much longer.... a few years later, in a garage far far away, defeated, the Wayfaring Stranger lays down his wrench, wipes a swath of coupling fluid across his sweat ridden forehead with a battered knuckle, head hung low, begins the long sad walk to the local Kia dealership......Damn that Johnny Hotrod!

Deiselpunk! I just read an article about getting 220hp outta of a tdi 4 cylinder. Ported head, ceramic-coated pistons, and rifling connecting rods, etc. ...well above my pay grade. Would any of the inline 6 BMW S-series engines fit length wise?

i thought turbo lag may come up. true, it would take a second to get it wound up, but it would be screaming on the back half of that 1/4 mile. she'd come of the line like a flathead and then go weeeeeeeeeeeee,...all the way home.(sortta like my ex). The wayfarer sedan only weighs 3200lbs stock, so does the Dodge Caliber SRT by chance. for me, The biggest draw back of the heavy engines is the stop and start nature of the driving id like to do with it. great from zero to alot and eating up large helpings of open highway, but not so much for starting and stoping from stop sign to redlight to parkinglot to drivethru ...mmmmmyumm.

Added a choice, so you could vote. The Dave option.

i just meant different trans or rear end gears could get more output from the stock flatheads.

I agree with your order of finish on the poll. To bad we can't bet the superfecta! I agree there are different builds for different applications, I think you voted 3 "diehard car guy". Can't disagree. WS

I'm satisfied the LA s, in all their displacements, are the same swap, fit wise. Thanks guys. The EFI/computer question seems to stop a lot of new late model swaps. I'm going to try and find some online drifters that may have swaped 4ts and know how to tune/program them. Sure seems like a whole wrecked donor car is the way to go for all these new EFIs , even the pentastars. Full brain transplant style.

i am starting this thread from an "aint broke, dont fix it" angle. hoping people weigh in regarding, souping up the 103hp, trans options(lotta lost power in that fluid drive), etc. the poll is just a gage of the peanut gallery. WS

I did a little googling in regards to the turbo 4s. The pt cruiser GTs and dodge neons SRTs had different configurations, but I feel are both likely to fit. The neons were really a test platform for the 07 Dodge Calliber SRT roll out. They seem to have made some changes as the neons had 224 hp and the Calibers 280+. My guess is all of them have similar things to overcome, mainly rear wheel drive trans set up and overcoming the computers. I do think the drifter community is very tech savvy and likely a good source for these answers. I'm still waiting for someone to say "steering colum...won't fit." In case they do,... ..., could you take a rear ended donor dodge caliber and make a front wheel drive wayfarer.....hmmmm. Ps its been brought to my attention that reading such "ideas" makes half of us smile and the other half vomit. Please remember if you are smiling, be respectful of those purging, and if you are heaving as you read this, we aren't laughing at you...we're just smiling. Enjoy WS

Good stuff. Thank you! The 5.7l : I did read the article on the wayfarer from Utah with a 5.7. But they widened the frame I believe. Also having it so tight you need a hoist to maintain it, defeats my purpose. I know nothing will bolt on, just wanted the ability for i(or someone else) to go back to the original 'that'head 6 without that much effort. In regards to the LAs I would like to narrow it down to one, the 318, 340, or 360. All would be fine hp wise, which fits "best" would be the decider IMO. I will add that ? to the poll. The 4.7L, my question is the same as the LA , "what are the refabs?". Is regular maintenance an issue? Ty WS

The jeep i6 I left off because,I believe, it is to long and requires moving the rad forward or opening up the fire wall. The low horsepower, all be it close, and the length made me leave it off the list. If it made 250 hp easily I would consider it or if it fit like a glove with just some motor mounts, but like the slant6, I felt it underpowered for its effort. The 2.5T kcar, from what i read, is well under 200 hp. There was a 2.2L turbo3 that put out 224, the lotus one, in a few 91-93 dodges and I would add it to the poll, but if I go 4T I would lean towards the newer, such as the pt cruser 4ts. I used the 04-05 dodge neon srt4 because I thought 1. Space wasn't a distinction between the 4t, all being about the same small. 2. Finding a swap with less wear would be easier 3. There is something "nostalgically" correct with a neon engine in a wayfarer. Or a pt cruser engine in a ply BC.

maybe i am misinterpreting this: P15-D24 Forum All topics discussing mopar cars from the late 30's to late 50s. Chrysler, De Soto, Dodge and Plymouth cars with stock flatheads to highly modified are welcome!does this mean; stock flatheads to highlymodified [flatheads] are welcome. OR stock flatheads to high modified [non stock] are welcome.

Thank you. i spent a lot of time reading 7 page post like this that never got anywhere, hope this one can root out some answers. from all that reading there seems to be quite a few people that are intrested in such builds.

They are both wayfarers.

Sorry if that was too harsh, I'm not against the strait 6, in fact I have one( though its 12v tis tis.) so I'm gonna take all the strait6 engine/trans etc from the parts car and keep it for the "posterity" of the stock one. I'd like to build the parts car for 1000 mile trips which I like to do strait thru. And with a heater. My stock wayfarer didn't come with one and thus I would have to cut the hole thru the firewall and don't want to do that for the same reason some people want all cars stock.... or just build out the parts car! As a sorta mopar resto-mod-rod....or just crush the rest of the parts car?

Please don't start with this crap. I was hoping for real feedback not blow hards who either can't read or can't control themselves from spamming the thread with the 180 out of the question. There's always gotta be one, lets hope your the only one. Last time, say it with me .....NOT AN OPTION. I'm sure there is a "why the strait six is in harmonic balance with the universe" post somewhere in here, go find it! ....or follow directions and stay on topic.