Gyromatic / clutch , help!!!

[leaded_custom]

Did change the clutchplate on my 49 Dodge w/ Gyromatic gearbox.

After done that, the clutch wont engage!!! Checked all, and the "automatic gearing is functional, but not possible to start engine, and free the clutch, just counting loud the geartooths.......... all connections checked, pivot pin, clutchbearing etc. and seems okay.

Could this be difference with thickness of plate? This was reworked by an local shop.

Can anybody tell me the thickness, it should be?

[leaded_custom]

Is the clutch disc in facing the correct direction?

Yup! All parts are mounted as was before, guaranteed!!

Only thing changed is the clutch plate.

Searched, to perhaps lengthend the rod from pedal, but the clutch arm to bearing is touching the house, at fully depressed.

Clutch arm are located at the pivot pin, and isnt showing wearing, on this point.

Checked the clutcharm, and lent another with a friend to see if bended, or weared down, but not any change.

Any, HELP!! Please give some tip..

[PatS....]

Is the Fluid Coupling unit full of Fluid Coupling fluid? You have no direct mechanical connection, so, no fluid, no go.

Sorry if you already know this, some new to the Fluid Drive don't.

[leaded_custom]

Is the Fluid Coupling unit full of Fluid Coupling fluid? You have no direct mechanical connection, so, no fluid, no go.

Sorry if you already know this, some new to the Fluid Drive don't.

Yes, its filled with recommended oiltype and measure.

Problem is to release clutch to "change gearshift", not slippering, or "no go"

When trying pressing cluthpedal, and move selector, you just hear "grin" from rhe gearbox, needs to select, and then start engine in that "gear", and cant release clutch to change.

and,yes i know this box is semiautomatic, with use of electric automatic shift.

But ,it also happens in change from movement forward to reverse...

[Normspeed]

Can you see if the release bearing might have fallen off the clutch fork when you installed the trans? That happened to me once.

[leaded_custom]

Can you see if the release bearing might have fallen off the clutch fork when you installed the trans? That happened to me once.

Checked, and is okay! Wonders if clutchplate have got wrong dimensions, thickness? Could this be a sulotion?

[Normspeed]

I'm not real familiar with gyro matics, but on a standard trans if the input shaft is binding in the pilot bushing it can act like a clutch that won't disengage.

[leaded_custom]

I'm not real familiar with gyro matics, but on a standard trans if the input shaft is binding in the pilot bushing it can act like a clutch that won't disengage.

MMm, but dont think it does, because gearbox slided easylly on place, and all was lined with an old shaft, before reassembly...

[James_Douglas]

Was the drive plate (mini-flywheel) removed from the fluid coupling ? If so, I have heard of them not being pressed back down all the way and thus moving the while clutch assembly back too far.

James

[leaded_custom]

Was the drive plate (mini-flywheel) removed from the fluid coupling ? If so, I have heard of them not being pressed back down all the way and thus moving the while clutch assembly back too far.

James

It was, but belived it got back right. All bolts are fastned, and no suspision open spaces around the fluid copling, or loose part.... and if this was , the clutch assembly comes back, ...if it had come back,then its no problem, in my car it seems like its to long forward?

[leaded_custom]

Welded one tricked clutchfork to see what happend, and adjusted the cluthrod to be tight without movement, when engaging the pedal, and let pedal back, the clutchrod had got "slack". Adjusted to zero slack again, and pressed pedal down,and got slack in the rod again???

And when checking from zero slack at clutchbearing to full pressed pedal it moves the bearing approx. 1/2", then pedal stops approx.1" from floor. Isn´t this a too long movement?

Could it be possible that clutchassembly hangs on the axleshaft?

Whatever, i need removal yet to find it out, but would be happy if someone could give me more tip to solve the problem:)