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In regards to the mounting point concerns, one source of information on reinforcing the mounting locations would be the rule book for your countries Motorsport Governing Body. In Australia CAMS has very good information on mounting seats and seatbelts in racing applications so as to not have these break under an accident conditions. The basic principle is to spread the loading over as big an area as possible. I know when I built my track day car many years ago, the harness mounting points had to be mounted on to a set size & thickness steel plate so as to distribute the load correctly. My bolt in cage in the same car used the same principle for the mounting points. Another good resource is the ADR's and VSB (Vehicle Standards Bulletins) if you are in Australia. These can be written in a very engineering kind of way as they are aimed at car manufacturers but they can give some helpful info too. James

Mick, thanks for the link to Dodge Parts, might have to head out there soon and see what he has. Is not to far from where i am now. I managed to get out in the garage this weekend and have started to go through the car. Checked over the engine on Sunday and found it turns over freely by hand. The oil looked quite good or in other words wasn't milky. The water hoses are all gone which I expected. I also had a look at the brake hoses and I reckon with one good pump of the pedal they would explode so that is on the list to replace sooner rather than later. I started to go through the body panels that were off the car and they are all in pretty good condition, the worst one would be the inner guard where the battery sat, looks like it may have leaked over time and has corroded in the corner. Might use it as my practice for welding up in other areas as the repair patch looks fairly simple at the stage..... James

Andy, Great info about the Royals, will keep an eye out for one or for an engine. Regards, James

Apologies all, been a while since I have been on this site due to some "living in the country and trying to have internet" issues. Andy, thanks for the offer, might give you a call later in the week. I have seen a lot of the Edgy stuff and got a rough quote from him. That was when I thought i had a 218cid 23" Head motor and not the 201cid 23". I am now concentrating on finding parts to turn the 218cid 25" motor into a 251cid. Have found a crank in the USA but the shipping costs hurt so I am going to see what I can find in Australia. There is a place in Wallan that has a lot of old Tractors, might need to stop one day and see if they have any parts.

Mick, Thanks for the info, I do like knowing the history of cars & there manufacturing locations. Lumpy, I know what you mean about any engine other than one with Chrysler DNA, I had a mate asking me if I was going to put a V8 in it but I am even hesitant to do that, as I do like the flathead 6 and the sound they make when worked a little. I know they aren't all that powerful but to me it is more about the history. At least he wasn't trying to convince me to put a Small Block Chev in it, he tried to convince me to buy a Hemi he found. He does have some different ideas seeing as he is about to build a 32 Ford Tudor with a mid 50's cadillac motor. I think I am set on the buckets, will make it easier to fit the T5 and I wont have to chase parts from the USA to move the shifter forward. Regards, James

Andy, I have lurked on Ozrodders but never posted. This car may have been on there as it has been through a few hands in the current state it is in. One of the previous owners I have found was going to install a Toyota 6 Cylinder engine in it until he decided to sell it. Bill, Thanks for some helpful pointers. The tag under the hood on the passenger side is stamped with P20S-02149. In regards to whether it is a imported chassis / Australian body or full import I am not sure. I haven't had a chance to inspect the number on the drivers door area due to relocating for a few days while the fires were near us. The engine number on the spare engine I have is D3 261612. The only reference I found to D3 was the Plymouth Based Dodge in 1936 with the 201.3cid engine. I now have that engine on a stand and will shortly be checking it further to confirm what it is. Regards, James

Hi, Name is James and I am now the owner of a P20 Special Deluxe that is Australian Delivered and in RHD. The photos below are how the vehicle was picked up last year & some from recently: Not much has been done other than research into the spec on the car as I moved house just after getting it but I couldn't wait to after moving to purchase it as the price was a little to good to pass up. Especially with the condition of the body & chassis. I was expecting rust through the floors but they are very solid. It has some rust around the trim holes, the vent just below the front windscreen and on the A Pillar just below the window frame. The previous owners have started to restore it so it is currently in bits and I have multiple boxes of parts to sort through. It also came with a spare engine that I was told was a 218cid but after deciphering the engine number I believe it is a 1936 Dodge 201cid and this is also backed up by the spare gearbox which is a floor shift 3 Speed. It is a 23" head though. The engine in the car is a 25" head so it might be the original engine from when it was manufactured in Canada. This website has been a huge help on working out all the above information. I was going to rebuild the spare engine and put it in but after finding out that it might be 201cid, I am now going to rebuild the engine in the car and take it out to a 251cid. The plans are: Take the body off the chassis and have the chassis powder coated red. Repair the body for the rust and for where the previous owner cut sections out at the rear below the trunk in preparation of lengthening the rear to make it in to a custom / lead sled. At this stage the body will be painted in a non metallic grey with a white roof & white firewall. The engine will be rebuilt as a 251cid. I am looking at a dual carby setup and split exhaust as well. Starting to look for the parts now for the 251cid conversion. It will be lowered but not to the point of scrapping on the ground, I live in a rural area and do want to be able to drive it out of my drive way & to use it at Chopped (a traditional hotrod show in Victoria which run dirt drags). I will be running widen steel rims, painted red & with white walls. I will look at upgrading to disc brakes in the front. I am also looking at a T5 conversion as that box was used in the local Fords & Holdens so are readily available. The interior is still to be decided but it is not staying in the brown vinyl it is in now. The front seat is in good conditon but the rear is rotted and falling apart. I am considering installing a modified rear seat from a vehicle that is close in dimensions & also installing buckets in the front to allow clearance to the T5 shifter as the local ones have the shifter at the back of the box. The interior colour has not been worked out yet as I keep changing my mind on what will look good versus being practical with a young family. As you can see a lot of thought has gone into planning this but that is what happens when you cant get out to work on it while you are moving house. It is not going to be an accurate restoration but more traditional hotrod. I have a goal to have it running for the 2015 Chopped Show (running being the word, as I am not sure I will have it ready to be registered). This site has already been a huge help with finding out information on the engine differences and I am sure it will be as I go forward, especially with a lot of the car in bits & in boxes. I will update this as I progress. James