Tomahawk715

Another view--pacer front end

Current suspension

Again just not really an option now--current frame under the car has been changed and other is stripped of the front suspension

Found this from an ad online but it's a dead thread and the person didn't answer where it came from--thoughts?

I appreciate the continued feedback and ideas. I'm certainly in no huge rush. I want to have a solid plan before I do anything to my "spare" frame. Again not to many rust free straight frames in Michigan for a 38.

The only outward appearance changes so far are the removal of the bumpers/brackets, removal of the rear tail lights which are now frenched into the tail pan under the deck lid and frenching of plate in the same location. Functionally the front suspension, motor trans and rear. Obviously the wiring is now 12 volt system. He moved a section of the firewall back to accommodate the drivetrain swap and make room for the 318. And put a mopar steering column in it--not sure what it came out of at this point.

My apologies--bumpers--he removed the bumper brackets. Fenders are still present.

DJ--I do have a stock frame with no front suspension--the 4dr parts car. I really only snatched it so I could start fresh if there was a better/different option. Grab it when you find it--not a lot of fresh clean non rusted 38 Plymouth frames kicking around Michigan.

Well it appears it was too wide for the rails so he had to add material to the outside of the frame and then boxed it. Front appears to track true with the rears and doesn't get into the fenders so maybe it would be ok. I suppose I could finish wiring the motor and take it for a spin first. Again it appears solid and functional but looks horrible. He deleted the front and rear fenders--rolled the back pan and frenched the rear taillight and plate. So I suppose I could take some measurements for a camaro front subframe as a starting point instead.

Thanks for confirming that info. The coupe already has the swap done and the 4dr has no front suspension. He considered a crown Vic swap--and that's what was under it. 5 inches too wide. He kept that and I got a body frame and rear end. But I picked it up in hopes of building a better chassis.

I tried searching this online and this site with little success--or not what I wanted to find. Two weeks ago I swapped a 79 Z28 for a half finished 38 Plymouth Bus Coupe. The PO had swapped in a pacer front end, 318/727 and challenger (I'm told) rear end. Everything looks "ok" I guess strength and operation wise. Welded and braced to hell. All the brake components are brand new. My issue is it looks like crap, pacer stuff is t easy/cheap to replace I'm told and the steering shaft takes a weird path. The car was being wired when the last owner passed so I've not driven it--nor has it been since the swaps. So to the question--or rather two questions-- I purchased a 4dr parts car with a very nice frame. From what I could find prior to the purchase it is the same frame as a 2dr. Is that correct? Second and most important--is there anyone who makes a weld in vehicle specific front crossmember/mustang 2 system? I put a heidts one in my 48 Chevy pickup but I'm finding nothing for this car i really want to avoid front halfing this frame or doing a camaro front--but I just don't know if I can live with the fugly pacer setup thanks in advance