Oil Filter Housing Rubber Gasket 861028 or EN-1044 or B1122 887 Issues

[Tom Skinner]

Gents,

The last 3 years I have changed my Oil and Filter on my C-38 1948 Chrysler (Full Flow Oil Filter Housing) the NAPA Gold 1068 Filter Fits but the Rubber Gasket Leaks.

I went to AI and they said that for the last few years others have had trouble with the Rubber Gasket as well with NAPA 1068 Filters Rubber Gaskets being too thin etc..

Well Mopar Pro sells one EN-1044 for about $13, but I usually buy from Andy B. He doesn't have any more of the old Type 4" I.D. , 4-3/4" O.D. 861028 rubber gaskets.

What are other Chrysler owners doing now? The B1122 887 is the Original Chrysler Number, the 861028 is no longer available on e-bay, the EN-1044 is Michael's.

I am tempted to buy Sheet Rubber and Cut My Own Gasket like I do for almost everything else now. What are your ideas? I bought a Lug Bolt from Michael Listed as 1/2" and he sent me a 9/16" Bolt when I sent it back I ate the S&H and he never sent me the right Bolt so I will not buy from him anymore. Call me cheap but when a seller doesn't correct his mistake I dump him. Andy Bernbaum and Roberts take care of most of my needs, as well as Vintage Power Wagons.

Tom

  

[desoto1939]

I would make my own gasket for the lid. Then you can make extra gaskets for future use.  i do this for my canister oil filter unit on my 39 Desoto.  Just the savings on shipping is worth the savings and some venders have minimum purchase requirement.

 

Rich Hartung

desoto1939@aol.com

[Roger Blagborne]

   I have found the new gaskets to be about half the thickness of the original  so I just doubled them up (new thin one over the old thin one) with a little anerobic sealant between them.  Seems to work fine...Just dont get too much torque on the bolt.   (cuts thru the cheap slightly crumbly rubber)

Cheers

[Tom Skinner]

Thanks fellow Mopar owners,

I will be making my own Rubber Gaskets which I probably realized when I posted was going to be necessary.

Tom

[Roger Blagborne]

   I would really like to know what product you use to make this gasket out of....so many products to choose from ... the counter person cannot be relied upon, because, they now can only deal with make-model-year- and maybe part number.   (not their fault, just the system we are now in.)

Cheers

[desoto1939]

I make mine out of the cork and rubber combined material. I think i got it at NAPA but can not rememeber.

 

Rich Hartung

desoto1939@aol.com

[Happy 46R]

When I bought my car the cartridge in the canister was a FRAM C-104. The top of the canister indicates it needs a Kralinator K-5 cartridge but both are obsolete and the best conversion I could get was for the Fram filter and it was the WIX 51080. This filter is often referenced in the forum as well as the NAPA equivalent. My problem is the packaged gaskets are two large a diameter and won't fit inside the lid. Also as @Roger Blagborne mentions the rubber rings are also very thin (1/16th ") and given the shoulder of the canister is only 1/8" wide they are subject to distortion and cutting when torque is added to the lid.

The gasket on the original FRAM filter appeared home made and also appeared to have been used several times. I tried cutting down the rubber rings in the filter and had varying success. I was in Princess Auto, a national retailer in Canada, and found a gasket material package that contained multiple different compounds for differing uses. Included was a Cork-Rubber compound that was 1/8" thick that was recommended for Oil/Coolant/Gasoline applications. As the material was provided by an international gasket supplier I picked up a package and use it regularly to cut my canister gaskets. It takes time and care but the end result is better than anything else I have used. I change the oil yearly, 2500 miles roughly, and have found I only need to cut a new gasket every second change. I also carry two in my tool box.  

The two pictures below show the gasket I just cut for my current project and the 2nd picture shows the difference between the rubber ring and the cut gasket. If you look carefully by the blue arrow the sheen on the gasket face shows how little surface area there is between the canister rim and the canister top. 

If anyone wants to contact me I will be happy to send them the part # and full description of the four types of material in the package.

[Tom Skinner]

Gents,

I found a guy on e-bay. He has 1/8" - 12"X 12" solid rubber gasket stock (claiming to be fire proof) @ $18, and 3/16" - 12" X 12" stock @ $28

His handle is Industrystock68. He is in N.J. I bought both to make what will be four gaskets total, that should last me awhile.

I will have to cut them out with an Exacto knife - carefully. I also learned (by looking into my Parts Catalog) I need a new Copper Crush Washer 

at the top of the Cap, to prevent damaging the Cap I believe the Rubber Gasket  I.D . is 3-3/8" and O.D. is 4-1/8" for my Full Flow Oil Compartment.

NAPA's gasket is only 1/16" Thick now and doesn't seal. It even feels a bit brittle like it might be Neoprene, not Solid Rubber.

Their old one's were more pliable (Solid Rubber) like and 1/8" and sealed well. So much for progress. 

Tom

[JBNeal]

@Tom Skinner whenever I need to make one of these OD/ID gaskets, I practice by cutting a template out of one of my dry cereal or cracker I dig out of the recycling tub...sometimes I nail it on the 1st attempt, sometimes not...then that refined cardstock template gets laid out on the expensive gskt material for an easier trim 🏆

[Tom Skinner]

Gents,

The guys handle on e-bay is Industrytech68 not Industrystock68.

I made a mistake on my las post.

Tom