FarmerJon Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 Anyone have a spare leaf spring or rear axle they can measure the pin on? My car came with cheap 1" lowering blocks on it that are meant for a 2" spring. S This causes the U bolts to sit a a wide angle. I am making a pair of solid blocks, but need to know what size to drill for the locator hole. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saskwatch Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 I can get you that measurement…. If you don’t mind waiting till morning ok? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Saskwatch Posted March 23, 2023 Solution Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 Measurement of the pin on the 1&3/4 “ wide leaf spring pack is 1/2” ( measured by holding a tape measure up to the pin & eye balling …. The hole in the rear axle , leaf spring centring mount looks to be at 17/16” using the same tape measure & the same eye ball estimate device…. Left eye slightly closed , aiming with the right, right fore finger trembling,ready to squeeze the trigger (-; ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerJon Posted March 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) Thank you for measuring! Is that 17/16 a typo for 7/16"? Glad I didn't just slam a 9/16" hole and pin... Safe to assume the pin/hole is centered? Edited March 23, 2023 by FarmerJon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saskwatch Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 Yes , pin & socket are centred , …. The pin is 1/2” the socket is a hair over that , probably is 9/16” but I only have a retractable tape measure held up to the socket & it appears to be under the 9/16 mark , so on second thought , maybe that would be 17/32 ?? ??♂️ ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saskwatch Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 1948 dodge (Canadian) D25c CL CPE ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D35 Torpedo Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 There is no way the bolt is 1/2 inch. It's more like 5/16ths with a 1/2 head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saskwatch Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 Thank you D35 Torpedo for keeping me honest …… if necessary, in my defence - Farmer Jon was looking for the proper size to make the socket in his lowering blocks , I tried my best to give him the “Size of the head” or the diameter of that pin , that will fit into that socket , NOT the bolt size that runs through the the leaf spring pack ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerJon Posted March 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 That is absolutely correct, I am duplicating the pin and socket in a pair of lowering blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saskwatch Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 Thanks man , I rest my case ! (-; And a Handsome Fabrication it is , I may add ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D35 Torpedo Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 Ok goood. I'd hate for FJ to mess it up and have to start again. 14 hours ago, Saskwatch said: Thank you D35 Torpedo for keeping me honest …… if necessary, in my defence - Farmer Jon was looking for the proper size to make the socket in his lowering blocks , I tried my best to give him the “Size of the head” or the diameter of that pin , that will fit into that socket , NOT the bolt size that runs through the the leaf spring pack ? I'm a stickler for correct terminology. It wasn't clear to me what you were conveying. So, to prevent confusion, I posted. Not a witch hunt? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcl700 Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 3/22/2023 at 12:11 PM, FarmerJon said: Anyone have a spare leaf spring or rear axle they can measure the pin on? My car came with cheap 1" lowering blocks on it that are meant for a 2" spring. S This causes the U bolts to sit a a wide angle. I am making a pair of solid blocks, but need to know what size to drill for the locator hole. Thank you I'd love to see how your blocks turned out. Post some photos. Is your car lowered is the front at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerJon Posted March 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) I will post pics when they are done, doing stuff at work during lunch so I sometimes get torn down and delayed. Hoping to finish them up early next week. Car is lowered maybe 2.5-3" in the front using "Aerostar" springs with one full coil cut. With cheap, new, stock replacement shocks, car drives very well, although springs are a little clunky at times because the rubber isolaters had fallen apart a d i haven't had a chance to pull it back apart to install the new ones. If I were to do it again, I would likely do it differently. I would drop the spring perch on the lower control arm, and cut 1/4-1/2 a coil. Precision spring part number SP08160. Before After Edited March 26, 2023 by FarmerJon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcl700 Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 33 minutes ago, FarmerJon said: I will post pics when they are done, doing stuff at work during lunch so I sometimes get torn down and delayed. Hoping to finish them up early next week. Car is lowered maybe 2.5-3" in the front using "Aerostar" springs with one full coil cut. With cheap, new, stock replacement shocks, car drives very well, although springs are a little clunky at times because the rubber isolaters had fallen apart a d i haven't had a chance to pull it back apart to install the new ones. If I were to do it again, I would likely do it differently. I would drop the spring perch on the lower control arm, and cut 1/4-1/2 a coil. Precision spring part number SP08160. Before After Great info. Thanks for the spring information. I didn't know about changing the spring perch. Interested to see how the blocks turn out. Never know I may need a set ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerJon Posted March 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 Finished the blocks today, came out pretty nice, hopefully will get a chance to install them in the next week or so. Thanks again for the measurements! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saskwatch Posted March 31, 2023 Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 EXCELLENT ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbpaints Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 11:15 AM, FarmerJon said: Finished the blocks today, came out pretty nice, hopefully will get a chance to install them in the next week or so. Thanks again for the measurements! Can I ask where you found the raw aluminum? I've been trying to find a source here on Vancouver Island for about 2 months and everyone is coming up empty handed. I'm looking to fabricate or purchase a set of 3" lowering blocks (1 3/4" wide) for my 1947 D24... Ubolts are covered, just need to find or build some blocks... lol Thanks in advance... Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 33 minutes ago, hbpaints said: I'm looking to fabricate or purchase a set of 3" lowering blocks (1 3/4" wide) for my 1947 D24. I'd just go with a set of Posie's Super Slide leafs. Much better ride and a built in 3" drop, not as cheap though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbpaints Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 49 minutes ago, Sniper said: I'd just go with a set of Posie's Super Slide leafs. Much better ride and a built in 3" drop, not as cheap though. I agree, that would work much better, but with the exchange and shipping it's over an $800 bill canadian.... Aluminum blocks "should" come in a tad cheaper.... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 Dang, didn't realize you were in Canada. Wait, I thought we had a free trade agreement? Guess not for us, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerJon Posted June 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/1/2023 at 12:04 PM, hbpaints said: Can I ask where you found the raw aluminum? I've been trying to find a source here on Vancouver Island for about 2 months and everyone is coming up empty handed. I'm looking to fabricate or purchase a set of 3" lowering blocks (1 3/4" wide) for my 1947 D24... Ubolts are covered, just need to find or build some blocks... lol Thanks in advance... Rob. I work in manufacturing, so I was able to scrounge some scrap material. It started off as 1.5"x2" bar stock. this is why i had to mill it down to 1.75". Mcmaster Carr (and other, cheaper suppliers) sell 1.75"x4" aluminum bar stock. You could cut it to the length you want. I would be cautious of blocks much over 2", due to driveshaft angle changes, changes in axle placement and scrubline concerns. With some care, you could figure out the angles and axle placement and correct by milling the right angle on one side of the blocks. I havent looked at exactly how much block our cars can fit before scrub line is an issue, but it should be considered. hopefully that is all helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 12 hours ago, FarmerJon said: With some care, you could figure out the angles and axle placement and correct by milling the right angle on one side of the blocks. Or you might consider some shims to correct the angle https://www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/pinion-angle-shims 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 I of late when retrofitting a drive train found a need for some 4 degree shims for the 1.75 spring width. I used WFO Concept brand and while a bit more costly, they are by far some of the best shims I have seen on the market. I was not involved with any lift/lowering, just setting the phasing of the driveline. Just one such product and the one I used. Summit has changed some of their search aspects and could not find a filter for angle or width. You have to sort by looking at each offering now it seems. WFO 4.0-1.75 for sale | eBay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Plymouthy Adams said: Summit has changed some of their search aspects and could not find a filter for angle or width Left most column, scroll down and you will find those filters https://www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/pinion-angle-shims?N=width-in%3A1-750-in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 the filters are just one or two, at one time...you could sort by angle then by spring width. Same as axle perches where one could filter out the chaff. The trend is to force you into make and model so they can target you with other items it seems. Last time I bought perches at Summit the filters were in place for spring width and tube diameter. The search within results for some reasons takes me off the page I am supposed to be searching within and list products nowhere closely related. Many website have gone this change in search even our own site here where you have to use so many modifiers to narrow down the junk returns. I once used Summit site for checking availability as I do a fair bit of retrofitting as often you got specs....specifications are slowly being taken from all listing and the go-to make and model search is what the parts counter guy only has an understanding of as in...nope not listed, next in line please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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