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Putting a car back together that someone else disassembled ? I've searched and searched but can't find a diagram with this particular torque shaft linkage set up. I think I'm missing parts also. Can anyone point me in the right direction please. First pics are of torque shaft and engine side ball mount, I know I need bushings for that side (can't find them in the trunk where everything else was thrown?) second pic is shifter arms, the one on the side now hits the floor and won't move up to fully engage. Rear mounts to tall? Came from bernbaums. Thanks in advance. Also would like to be pointed in the right direction for proper manuals?IMG_20221129_074058672.jpg.2f6d90ebd9c4bf7d2cd07a55516394bb.jpgIMG_20221129_074123592.jpg.97bcb56de2c5514cefdd796a0d35b76d.jpgIMG_20221129_074147601.jpg.ddf00d3b774a9c0a6cf3b2c4fcf49234.jpg

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Here is the proper orientation of the shift arms on my '48 when in neutral (wish mine was as clean as yours!):

 

 

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You must get a manual!  :)

 

https://www.amazon.com/1946-1954-Plymouth-Repair-Manual-Reprint/dp/B00435KT6S/ref=sr_1_4?crid=MA5FQLPNKZ4Q&keywords=manual+1948+plymouth&qid=1669730697&sprefix=manual+1948+plymoth%2Caps%2C103&sr=8-4

 

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38 minutes ago, Sam Buchanan said:

Here is the proper orientation of the shift arms on my '48 when in neutral (wish mine was as clean as yours!):

 

 

image.jpeg.fdd3071ef3b764ada803083b0ae02597.jpeg

 

 

You must get a manual!  :)

 

https://www.amazon.com/1946-1954-Plymouth-Repair-Manual-Reprint/dp/B00435KT6S/ref=sr_1_4?crid=MA5FQLPNKZ4Q&keywords=manual+1948+plymouth&qid=1669730697&sprefix=manual+1948+plymoth%2Caps%2C103&sr=8-4

 

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My manual is ordered, everything I've looked up has arms like yours but mine are bent differently. The flat spot in the hole only lets them go on one way. I can't find any similar, numbers on my trans indicate standard 3 spd. How tall should rear mounts be? Thanks

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24 minutes ago, mvpcustoms said:

None that I have found show my particular set up, arms on trans and torque arm set up

 

Then I have to wonder if the gear selector shaft is installed correctly in the gearshift housing, I just can't see how the linkage would work with the arm oriented the way it is in your photo.

 

From what I can see in your photo the trans mounts look correct if they are resting on the frame crossmember. The photo I attached previously shows the mounts I installed if you look closely.

 

I don't envy you assembling this car that was taken apart by someone else.....I have a hard enough time putting mine back together after I have slept a night or two!  ?

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2 hours ago, Sam Buchanan said:

 

Then I have to wonder if the gear selector shaft is installed correctly in the gearshift housing, I just can't see how the linkage would work with the arm oriented the way it is in your photo.

 

From what I can see in your photo the trans mounts look correct if they are resting on the frame crossmember. The photo I attached previously shows the mounts I installed if you look closely.

 

I don't envy you assembling this car that was taken apart by someone else.....I have a hard enough time putting mine back together after I have slept a night or two!  ?

Spoke with the previous owner and he says it was driven to the shop like this, I kind of think the one arm is bent or something? yeah I'm the guy that they give the box of bolts and parts and say figure it out. At the same time doing a 12 volt conversion adding ac? these are correct body mounts? You say these rear mounts are right also? Looks like I'll barely have room for the e brake whenever I receive the lining as close as it is to the floor? Thanks, can't wait for the manual to arrive.IMG_20221129_121952599.jpg.390303779ac3e10531bcabae27907e73.jpgIMG_20221129_121342145.jpg.73107ff6a200d7d0805854ba648a9978.jpgIMG_20221129_121352987.jpg.bb7ace4f3e293b2d6012ad5dd2aab9e8.jpgIMG_20221129_121441324.jpg.4cfd362921103c785b3f4120ceeb3b92.jpgIMG_20221129_121429252.jpg.ad0eac301240a261d36166054ce92243.jpgIMG_20221129_121141668.jpg.aab8c547ad2a3e022216123a44a865de.jpg

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6 minutes ago, Sam Buchanan said:

Check the front motor mount to see if it looks correct, if not the tranny may be tilted up. 

That is quite the project! 

Front is new also from bernbaum, looks exactly like the one that came out. Yes it's getting a full resto. The old rear ones were so oil soaked and smushed they were half the height of these new ones. I think I'm gonna just trim some off til I get good clearance on the shift arms. Thanks alot, that manual will be a great plus. Will pass it on with the vehicle when it's finished. IMG_20221129_122633150.jpg.643aa6081c5b47aed79237cb0518a852.jpgIMG_20221129_122604484.jpg.0004ec74b249ffaefaadec926e1018b2.jpgIMG_20221129_122615956.jpg.40d69ad8292812c8c044cff8440c92c2.jpgIMG_20221129_124503478.jpg.f4c70fec2989bd01a21cde634ebf4a81.jpgIMG_20221129_124413395.jpg.6abb2b093fb042b12c3dff344db8e4d0.jpgIMG_20221129_124345407.jpg.465854ae48bc4aca0904c63c7de95049.jpg

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Here are two threads on the mounts you might find interesting, the first one is a thread I started.

 

https://p15-d24.com/topic/50844-engine-mounts-p15-caution/

 

And the second one:

 

 

This is a case where aftermarket parts may not be exact replacements.....I suspect you have some experience with this.....  ;)

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12 minutes ago, Sam Buchanan said:

Here are two threads on the mounts you might find interesting, the first one is a thread I started.

 

https://p15-d24.com/topic/50844-engine-mounts-p15-caution/

 

And the second one:

 

 

This is a case where aftermarket parts may not be exact replacements.....I suspect you have some experience with this.....  ;)

I'm gonna cut them down to where I need them?

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Dunno if this info will help re the clutch shaft bushings which originally are a split bushing made of diecast that fit around the ball then the two bushings are held onto the ball with some grease and inserted into the hole in the torque shaft....that piece in your hand bolts onto the side of the bellhousing from memory.........NOW THIS MAY HELP................here in OZ when Oz Chrysler made RHD manual gearbox Valiants  from 1961-1981 the clutch mechanism used the exact same bushing in the same arrangement BUT these bushings were made of a white nylon or plastic, same 2 piece bushing, same size, width etc and were a direct replacement for the earlier diecast metal bushings..........I do not know whether mother mopar used these in the USA for Valiants but it maybe worth checking............regards from Oz.........andyd

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AB sells those clutch torque shaft bushings.  Also here is a filmstrip that has some pics of the transmission and clutch linkage.  You can download the MTSC booklets too!

 

https://mymopar.com/mtsc-1949-volume-2-6-transmission-fundamentals/

 

 

https://mymopar.com/mtsc-1948-volume-2-4-a-good-man-in-the-clutch/

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1 hour ago, MarcDeSoto said:

AB sells those clutch torque shaft bushings.  Also here is a filmstrip that has some pics of the transmission and clutch linkage.  You can download the MTSC booklets too!

 

https://mymopar.com/mtsc-1949-volume-2-6-transmission-fundamentals/

 

 

https://mymopar.com/mtsc-1948-volume-2-4-a-good-man-in-the-clutch/

Thank you sir

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