Replacement Fuel Pump

[cef2lion]

Helping friend of mine with replacing the fuel pump in his 1952 Coronet. Has the 230 Engine. It had an Autolite FA-4001 on it. No rebuild kits to be found. I talked to Then & Now and they suggested an AC588. Also, it was suggested the AIRTEX 73201. Nothing in stock that I could find. My friend saw Rock Auto had one listed for his year and model. He ordered it. There was no picture of it and I could find anything about the USMW17477 that Rock Auto was selling. I told him I wasn't sure it would work. It came yesterday. Looking at it I'm just not sure. The only marking on the pump are 1003ABCC. I suggested he talk with Then and Now or Andy Bernbaun. He liked the price of this pump. Any thoughts if this USMW looks right? Interesting the box has 588 on it.

[Sniper]

Doesn't look anything like the fuel pump on my 52 230.  In and out ports are located incorrectly, mounting bolt pattern is wrong.

 

https://www.usmotorworks.com/catalog/

 

Punch in the part number in the search function.  It's for a V8.

 

I sent RA an email about this

 

 

Edited July 6, 2022 by Sniper

[cef2lion]

Thanks for the link. I looked at that site as well and see the V8 application.

 

I downloaded the fuel pump catalog from the USMP link. I don't see a cross reference for the AIRTEX 73201 or a listing for a 1952 Dodge 230.

Edited July 6, 2022 by cef2lion
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[Captain Neon]

1946 1947 1948 Plymouth Fuel Pump PETROL PUMP MOPAR SPECIAL DELUXE | eBay

 

[cef2lion]

That looks correct. 

[Sniper]

Cheaper at Kanter

 

Kanter

 

Andy Bermbaum

 

Roberts best price

[kencombs]

Rockauto has the correct Carter pump listed under 53 Dodge truck.  Less than 42 bucks.  The source of  the other one purchased from Rock obviously provided wrong application info.

 

I found these things from 42 to 271 bucks!!!  I pays to shop.

 

Edit:  it's a Carter M2091

Edited July 6, 2022 by kencombs

[Sniper]

Ken, you rock

[cef2lion]

Thank you all!!

 

I was looking over all the pump links from different vendors including the Carter. The actuator arm is different on each. The Carter has a real curve to it. The one that we took off had an almost straight arm. Would all the suggested ones work an just touch the cam differently? 

Edited July 6, 2022 by cef2lion
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[cef2lion]

Any thoughts on the curved arm on the Carter pump?

[andyd]

As far as I know all the various brands of pumps so long as the mounting flange on the actual pump body is the same then whether the pump arm touches the cam below, or above the cam shouldn't make any difference as to how the pump operates...........but happy to be shown I'm wrong..............andyd 

[cef2lion]

Picked up a correct fuel pump an new short rubber fuel line to input fuel pump. 
 

I blew out the fuel line an ran some clean gas threw the line into a clean container. Smelled like turpentine at first. Then ran pretty clean. Did it again today an was even cleaner. Is there something other then gas to flush the line?

 

I was thinking of adding an inline filter before the pump? Is that ok on the suction side of the pump? The fuel pump has the sediment bowl but would like to add an inline as well. Or add it after the fuel pump. 

[desoto1939]

The three pumps that Sniper showed are AC 588 pumps that were used from approx 1937 up into the mid 50's  This is the same pump that is only 39 Desoto. When my old pump went bad i took off the pump from the engine and it still had the AC 588 metal parts tag attached to the pump.

 

Even NAPA had these pumps but they wanted to know for what car I told them that this is the pump I needed and they had it in two days.

 

Rich Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

[Sniper]

Well, its deja vu all over again

 

Another option to look for

Edited July 18, 2022 by Sniper

[Doug&Deb]

Adding a filter before the pump is a good idea. Use a metal inline filter not plastic and put it somewhere easy to get to. Mine is just in front of the left rear tire. I change it every spring when I do the annual service. 

[cef2lion]

Thanks for the suggestion on the filter location. I was also considering putting it  right before the fuel pump to collect deposits in the line from the tank forward. I have a new tank going in. Was hoping I don’t have to replace the fuel line. 

[desoto1939]

6 minutes ago, cef2lion said:

Thanks for the suggestion on the filter location. I was also considering putting it  right before the fuel pump to collect deposits in the line from the tank forward. I have a new tank going in. Was hoping I don’t have to replace the fuel line. 

Cef2lion. Since you are replacing the gas tank then I would make a suggestion that you also install an electric fp at the same time.  The fuel line can be cut and then a rubber hose spliced intot eh fuel line from the gas tank to the electric pump. Also a good idea to put the filter prior to the electric fp.  Electric pumps like to push fuel and not pull fuel.

 

Hook the electric curcuit up to a toggle switch that is only powered when the ignition is on. You can control the electric pump via the toggle swith prior to starting the car to prime the carb or if you ever get a vapor lock. I have this setup on my 39 desoto for the past 25+ years.

 

Rich Hartung

desoto1939@aol.com

[cef2lion]

Thanks!

[Doug&Deb]

I agree with Rich. I have an electric pump on my Coronet. It’s great for priming the system after the car sits. I highly recommend replacing the fuel line especially if you’re installing a new tank. Nickel copper line is easy to work with and lasts forever. Be careful with the ferrule at the tank connection. It tends to disappear into a black hole if you drop it.