C3 Garagesc Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Hey, a new guy here to theses vehicles. I've an issue involving a 1953 Chrysler T&C Wagon with Fluid Drive transmission. After depressing the clutch pedal to put the car in gear, I have to use my foot to lift the clutch from off the floor. Transmission engages fine and the car shifts fine and drives well. Problem is having to physically return the clutch pedal after it is depressed. Certainly appreciate any guidance, direction, or information on resolving this issue. TIA, Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eneto-55 Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) Does it come up by itself after you lift it just a bit? If so, the over-center linkage may not be adjusted correctly. EDIT: Oh, and welcome to the forum. Edited February 19, 2021 by Eneto-55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C3 Garagesc Posted February 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) After I get it up a little over halfway. Thanks! Edited February 19, 2021 by C3 Garagesc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C3 Garagesc Posted February 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Do you know where might I find a diagram of the overcenter spring and the adjustment for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eneto-55 Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 minute ago, C3 Garagesc said: After I get it up a little over halfway. I would have thought that it would pop up before that if it is the over-center linkage, but I might be wrong on that. Assuming that there isn't any part of the floor mat that is rubbing on the pedal shaft. But the return spring would exert more force at half way up that it does at the bottom of the stroke, so maybe a combination of this, plus old grease in the bushing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eneto-55 Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 minute ago, C3 Garagesc said: Do you know where might I find a diagram of the overcenter spring and the adjustment for it? I only have repair manuals for the Plymouth, although I believe that it is the same basic design. (My car is a 46, and I know the design changed to some degree, but I'm not sure how much.) You can check in the Downloads tab - there might be a Repair Manual for your vehicle in there - scanned & submitted by forum members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C3 Garagesc Posted February 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Okay, thanks for the quick response and guidance. I'll pursue and, hopefully, figure it out. Thanks, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eneto-55 Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Here is part of page 20 in the "What's New About Serviceing the New Plymouth P15" manual (in the downloads section). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C3 Garagesc Posted February 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 You're certainly a grewat help. I was going to check out the download section tomorrow, as I'm old and ready to go home. You've saved me a bit of time. I do appreciate it! Now, go rest. I'm heading home. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirebill Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 In 1969, as a 20 yr. old commuting to college in a 1950 Plymouth , had a brake pedal that wouldn't come up after it was released. Had to pull the pedal up with the toe of my right foot. Overhauled brake cylinders and replaced all brake return springs. No change. Went to attack the master cylinder and noticed rust dust coming from the shaft that the brake pedal pivoted on. Hit the lube fitting with a couple pumps from a hand held grease gun. Problem solved. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Had the same problem with my 51's brake pedal,, lube solved it. Ended up lubing all the fittings while I was under the car. I imagine the springs nt eh clutch setup would mask the problem till it got much worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C3 Garagesc Posted February 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Thanks for the replies. I believe I got all the fittings greased at the last oil change, but certainly could have missed something in that area, as I don't think you tend to consider "greasing the clutch".? My plan is to first make the Over-Center Spring tool in order to check that measurement. Will be checking the lube fittings then , as well. Thanks, again! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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