jgreg53 Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 is the fuel pump supposed to suck the fuel through the line from the tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg g Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Yes! Inlet is on the suction side of the diaphragm, out let on the pressure side. If there are air leaks on the suction side, it will not create suction. Do you have your lines connected properly? ?y? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Klapp Posted August 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 On 7/30/2017 at 7:51 PM, Young Ed said: I've had 1 that no matter what wouldn't prime from turning over but a couple brief starts by manually filling and it was good. Of course you gotta make sure it's not getting air Well Ed, you sir are the winner! She's a runner! Filled the gerry can up all the way, kept feeding the carb fuel, an low and behold . . . . She starts and runs AWESOME. Almost perfect idle, but she's really rich. Thanks to everyone for the advise! M.Klapp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg g Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Check your float level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Klapp Posted August 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Link to it running: https://instagram.com/p/BXT46CcBRADp7pSl8zMzTlZouRnHAOdolg2WNk0/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Klapp Posted August 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 30 minutes ago, jgreg53 said: is the fuel pump supposed to suck the fuel through the line from the tank? Yes. Fuel pump pulls from the tank, or in my case gerry can. M.Klapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Klapp Posted August 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, greg g said: Check your float level. Yeah, we eyeballed it on the rebuild. Didn't have a gauge float gauge. M.Klapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 2 hours ago, M.Klapp said: Yeah, we eyeballed it on the rebuild. Didn't have a gauge float gauge. M.Klapp All you need is something flat to lay across the carb and a ruler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Klapp Posted August 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 7 hours ago, Young Ed said: All you need is something flat to lay across the carb and a ruler. Yeah, that's what we did. Rebuild kit measurement wasn't 100% clear, just said to use a 5/64th gauge, but didn't reference what to measure to. We laid a straight edge on the carb and eyeballed 5/64th (don't have anything that measures to 5/64th) to the top of the float. Ill try and get a gauge/ruler with the 64th marks. Can anyone verify 5/64th is right? M.Klapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, M.Klapp said: Yeah, that's what we did. Rebuild kit measurement wasn't 100% clear, just said to use a 5/64th gauge, but didn't reference what to measure to. We laid a straight edge on the carb and eyeballed 5/64th (don't have anything that measures to 5/64th) to the top of the float. Ill try and get a gauge/ruler with the 64th marks. Can anyone verify 5/64th is right? M.Klapp Did you hold the float up against the needle valve when measuring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Klapp Posted August 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Young Ed said: Did you hold the float up against the needle valve when measuring? Yes. M.Klapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Roberts Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 On 8/3/2017 at 3:39 AM, M.Klapp said: Yeah, that's what we did. Rebuild kit measurement wasn't 100% clear, just said to use a 5/64th gauge, but didn't reference what to measure to. We laid a straight edge on the carb and eyeballed 5/64th (don't have anything that measures to 5/64th) to the top of the float. Ill try and get a gauge/ruler with the 64th marks. Can anyone verify 5/64th is right? M.Klapp Sometimes you can use a drill bit for measuring . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando Mendes Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 On 03/08/2017 at 7:39 AM, M.Klapp said: Yeah, that's what we did. Rebuild kit measurement wasn't 100% clear, just said to use a 5/64th gauge, but didn't reference what to measure to. We laid a straight edge on the carb and eyeballed 5/64th (don't have anything that measures to 5/64th) to the top of the float. Ill try and get a gauge/ruler with the 64th marks. Can anyone verify 5/64th is right? M.Klapp Is this gauge 5/64"? 4/64"=1/16" or 5/64"=1/16"+1/64" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando Mendes Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 On 04/08/2017 at 10:54 PM, Jerry Roberts said: Sometimes you can use a drill bit for measuring . *FLOAT SETTING:When using a SOLID needle,the distance from the top of float should be 5/64 inch(gauge T109-50),plus or minus 1/64 inch,below top surface of carbureter body casting.Float setting for SPRING loaded needle and seat assembly:place a .050" feeler gauge between lip of float and intake needle pin.With intake needle spring fully compressed,top of float should be 5/64 inch (1,98mm) (gauge T109-50) below top surface of carbureter body casting.Adjust by bending lip on float. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Klapp Posted August 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 On 8/5/2017 at 8:08 AM, Fernando Mendes said: Is this gauge 5/64"? 4/64"=1/16" or 5/64"=1/16"+1/64" 9 hours ago, Fernando Mendes said: *FLOAT SETTING:When using a SOLID needle,the distance from the top of float should be 5/64 inch(gauge T109-50),plus or minus 1/64 inch,below top surface of carbureter body casting.Float setting for SPRING loaded needle and seat assembly:place a .050" feeler gauge between lip of float and intake needle pin.With intake needle spring fully compressed,top of float should be 5/64 inch (1,98mm) (gauge T109-50) below top surface of carbureter body casting.Adjust by bending lip on float. Thanks Fernando. Plan on making a gauge, should be pretty easy. And, its definitely getting too much fuel. Getting some seepage at the bowl gasket. M.Klapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Elder Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Someone on here, Greg, I think, said to lower the float level 1/32? below what the manual calls for in order to compensate for todays fuel expanding differently/more rapidly causing the engine to run rich...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Klapp Posted August 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Frank Elder said: Someone on here, Greg, I think, said to lower the float level 1/32? below what the manual calls for in order to compensate for todays fuel expanding differently/more rapidly causing the engine to run rich...... That's good to know. Anyone have a link to that post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 10 hours ago, M.Klapp said: Thanks Fernando. Plan on making a gauge, should be pretty easy. And, its definitely getting too much fuel. Getting some seepage at the bowl gasket. M.Klapp keep in mind that for an accurate set of round feeler gauges one can use the appropriate drill bit....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Klapp Posted August 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 29 minutes ago, Plymouthy Adams said: keep in mind that for an accurate set of round feeler gauges one can use the appropriate drill bit....... I've heard this before and I'm just not picturing it in my head. I feel like the top edge of the bowl won't lie the bit sit flat. Sorry, maybe I just need to try it. M.Klapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, M.Klapp said: I've heard this before and I'm just not picturing it in my head. I feel like the top edge of the bowl won't lie the bit sit flat. Sorry, maybe I just need to try it. M.Klapp invert the carb, place a flat edge across the top of carb bowl.....with float now hanging in the full rise position (fuel shutoff)....insert the feeler gauge...adjust float tab as needed to get proper or personal selected gap... if you look at the guage in the picture, it is just a straight edge with a 5/64 tab...the bit will substitute for the tab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Elder Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 hour ago, M.Klapp said: That's good to know. Anyone have a link to that post? PM this guy.....he will tell you if I;m wrong....lol. http://p15-d24.com/profile/17-greg-g/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando Mendes Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Klapp Posted September 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Got it up and running again, was having a starting issue, but have some seepage on the driver side front edge of the bowl still. New (2nd one) gasket and torqued down as much as I dare without ripping the threads out. M.Klapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren kruger Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Make sure pump arm is possioned properly under cam lobe that pushes pump arm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Klapp Posted November 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 37 minutes ago, Warren kruger said: Make sure pump arm is possioned properly under cam lobe that pushes pump arm Yup, we’re all good now. Thanks M.Klapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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