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Build Thread : Race to the BBQ.....(My brother John's 1950 B2B )


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Here we go...my brother and myself that is.

 

He wants a Vintage Dodge truck  and bought one a few years ago.

 

Its time.

 

Quite a few people here on the forum have seen it waiting in the background at previous BBQ's at my place.

With my wedding coming up in June 2016, the fact I'm driving my truck in a mini truck parade of Pilot-House trucks

from the church to the reception at my house.....well.....he wants to be in the show. lol. 

 

So I'm building him a running truck....no bling no killer paint....that will come later.

 

1950 B2B

Diplomat front-end

318 LA engine

904 torqueflite

8 3/4 axle

3:23 suregrip

Durango front seats or similar

 

The truck is rough and needs lots of love, and at this ranch....there's plenty of that....so it will be a Vintage Mod.

The Clements Tailgate BBQ is April 2nd 2016.....it should be looking great by then.

 

Feel free to come over and lend a hand.... :lol: ​ 

 

48D

 

picture notes: not really in sequence to start with....the cab has been stripped somewhat.....we took off the doghouse....and ripped out the 1/8 steel plate bed floor....it was covering up the very brittle wood bed.

 

 

 

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I think you should wait till 2019. It would give you more time to work on your brothers truck, & I would bring one of my next trucks out there as well for the parade. I think that sounds like a solid plan. :)

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Same as a Volare.....

 

I've just gotten into the habit of calling them Diplomat front ends because nine times out of ten, that's what they've come out of. lol

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Random pictures of the 318 teardown. Lots to throw away, mostly the lean burn set up, miscellaneous brackets and the two bbl manifold/carb.

I have a 360 manifold that will take its place for the moment.....it might be replaced with an aluminum one later.

 

48D 

 

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Oh man....good to see one of the "background trucks" getting a resurrection! But I thought John was all gung-ho on the little diesel golf cart-like yard haulers he's been cruising around in lately? lol

 

That powertrain and suspension combo should be a "humdinger" for that B2!

 

Looking forward to this one. I should be back in your 'hood around xmas. So keep me posted on your work party dates.

 

Will it get an A-1 or Stihl logo on the doors?

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lol.....I'm sure it'll get a small 45 decal and a racing decal of his shop on the back window (A-1 Saw and Mower)....but not much more. He wants a midnight blue color...but like I said...not til later.

 

Maybe I should mock up a simple shop logo (freehand) and see what he sez...lol

 

48D

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......... But I thought John was all gung-ho on the little diesel golf cart-like yard haulers he's been cruising around in lately? lol

 

I think I remember seeing you take that for a test spin.......  post-6005-0-19333500-1448983847_thumb.jpg

 

but, from the look on your face I doubt it will replace the 53 :)

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Being the owner of A-1 Saw and Mower.....he's always got a demo cruzer he's testing out around our places...lol

 

Tearing the engine down, everything is good to go so far......RPM Performer intake, 4160 Holley (600cfm), and a rebuild kit on order!

 

 

48D

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Ok....moving to a 6210 Holley spread bore (Q-jet replacement). I had an old race motor with a pair of 360 heads that are still good. So we'll be using those on a standard 318 short block. No piston upgrade, so low end torque is the motive.

 

Its been a lot of moving motors around and tearing things apart and measuring to get where we are right now. Pulled the 440 off the best engine stand I had.....pushing threw several 318's and 360's on stands behind the shop.....putting some on pallets and the sort....lots of fun. lol.

 

As we went threw the carbs I had, it seemed the 4160 was going to be a good fit, but I realized a spread bore with a bit of juice would be even better. So its being sent off to be rebuilt as opposed to me doing it as to save some time.

 

The 360 heads are "dusty" so we'll be dropping them off to be cleaned up to start things off.

 

Inventory of the brackets, pulleys for the PS, ALT, and water pump are done too. It was an AC motor so the pulleys had to changed along with the ALT bracket.

 

48D     

pic 1: 1968 440ci   pic 2: 318  and 360   pic 3: 360 heads   pic 4: short block 318 ready for final teardown pic 5: the pile of cr*p that is just getting bigger...lol 

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Thank you Todd!

 

Dropped the 360 heads at the machine shop and went over the build plan. HP springs and normal cleaning etc...

Some notes on the idea of putting 360 heads on a 318 block.

 

The 360 head breathes better but there is a compression drop. The chambers are

larger than the 318 heads and the 318 pistons do not reach the deck completely.

KB 167 pistons fix this and increase the compression.

 

Building the 360 heads is a better idea since they would fit better with future upgrades.

For the time being, the replacement pistons will be standard.

 

48D

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Machine shop gave us the cost on the heads.....@ 490 for new valves, guides, springs, valve job, etc......this of course after testing the heads for a rebuild, which they passed. lol

 

Again I know this isn't a L6 engine and folks here who don't know me, let me just say....I save everything. And I share what I can. My ranch is full of L6 engines and parts waiting for the next guy  

out there somewhere who needs a hand. :lol:

 

Viva El Vintage!

 

48D

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Having just built a 360, you'll need a 750 cfm carb. :)

How much cam are you using?

 

My motor:

360

30 over

8.5 compression

202 heads

Edelbrock Performer

Block hugger headers

Slight cam (could just barely hear a lope).

MSD ignition

750 Holley

 

Made about 280-300 hp.

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Having just built a 360, you'll need a 750 cfm carb. :)

How much cam are you using?

 

My motor:

360

30 over

8.5 compression

202 heads

Edelbrock Performer

Block hugger headers

Slight cam (could just barely hear a lope).

MSD ignition

750 Holley

 

Made about 280-300 hp.

Seems like a similar build Kev.

What is your manifold vacuum?

What are you jetted at?

What was the duration and overlap of the cam? Sounds like a 1/2 race cam

Did you advance the cam?

How did you determine your HP?

 

On my brother's, I'm expecting the vacuum at about 10 hg, using a stock cam, no advance (straight up factory), and the 650 spread bore. 

I won't even hazard an HP number...lol.

 

48D

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looks like an exciting project!

 

So jealous..you guys have all the fun! plenty of cars and the space!

 

If I could do it all over again (62 now and migrated in 1974 to NZ and then AU) I would have migrated to the USA !

 

You're welcome to come on over and stay awhile Ryan!

 

Bring a spanner for your back pocket and be ready incase I need you to help turn a few bolts!

 

48D

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Oh ok...the 4010 is a square bore. I definitely think a 750cfm with a 360 is better. My 360 is a 850 double pumper with 11:1, soild lifters and etc etc tested 500+ hp.....But my brothers will be docile, a parade runner if you will. So a spread bore 650 seems like a good place to start. Getting  some low-end grunt and lil starting line growl...lol. 

 

48D  

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