larryconnors Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 My 1947 P15 has three front bumperettes. One of them is dead center. It came to me that way and it appears that it has always had them. I don't know if this was an old time custom touch or an option. The problem is that it leaves no bolt hole to use in mounting a license plate bracket. Have you folks seen cars set up like this? How is your front license plate mounted? I have the bracket and plan to paint it Rustoleum gloss black enamel. Is this correct? Quote
Young Ed Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 My p15 was also setup that way. I don't believe it had a front plate mount but the bumper had been removed to install a towbar by the prior owner. Quote
Robin (UK) Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 The center bumper guard was a factory option for cars supplied in States that didn't require a front plate.Factory promo picture attached, and a few other old photos I found on the web... 1 Quote
RobertKB Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Alberta is the only province in Canada that does not require a front plate on any vehicle, antique or not. It's been that way for 20+ years now. I don't run a front plate on any of my cars except my '63 Ford Fairlane 500 and it is just the provincial flag of Alberta. I run year of manufacture plates on the back of the cars as it is legal to register them to the car. What US states, if any, do not require a front plate? Edited January 4, 2015 by RobertKB 2 Quote
Young Ed Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 MN does not require them on cars eligible for collector antique type plates. So my dakota has a front one and the 46 and 48 do not. Quote
1950 Special Deluxe Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 Saskatchewan no longer mandates a front plate. They are optional. A Collector plate has just been introduced as well, we were the last province to get one. The 2nd optional plate is only $20 extra, so most people pay the extra fee and put it away to replace the original collector plate when needed. Mine is on order so will post a picture when they arrive. Quote
desoto1939 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 PA only uses back plates on current, classic and antique. At one time they did have both front and back plates I have a dual set of 1939 Pa Plates for my 39 Desoto. PA does permit you to register a car with the year of manufacturer. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com Quote
greg g Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) If you register an Historic vehicle with YOM plates you follow what ever was issued in that year. NY deleted front plate during war years for metal conservation purposes. So my 46 and 56 only have rear YOM's If your year required both you need the matched pair. If you get current Historic plated from the DMV both are required. There are quite states many in the South east that still go with rear only. I believe this is current http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2013/10/how-many-states-require-front-license-plates.html Edited January 4, 2015 by greg g 1 Quote
Niel Hoback Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 Indiana has not had a front plate, I think since the 50's. Quote
TodFitch Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 . . . What US states, if any, do not require a front plate? Arizona has rear plates only. Been that way since, IIRC, sometime in the 1970s. Quote
Dan Hiebert Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 New Mexico and Michigan don't require a front plate, Texas didn't require a front plate with Antique Auto registration (been so long since we lived in TX that may have changed, I know they've changed their regular plates many times since). Had to find front plate brackets for all our rides except the Terraplane when we moved to New York. Luckily the Terraplane had one when we got it, that would have been a bear to find Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 Missouri uses two plates now. I think they began using two in the 1960s or early 70s. I believe you can have either YOM or the "antique vehicle" plates. The antique tags now look exactly like the everyday plates...........just say "historic" on them.......don't like them very well. Got my antique plates in 1973......These plates stay with the car as long as I own it and it does not require state safety inspections. The originals finally started getting worn and rusty around the edges......so I repainted them. So far, not a single person has commented......they are so old most people don't know what the original looked like. (They were a slightly different color because of the reflective finish that came on them). Now they are not reflective. Quote
Randy L Peterson Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 This is where My Plate is attached.. 1 Quote
larryconnors Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Posted February 1, 2015 Randy, The way your plate is attached is the way I'd like to attach mine. There is a bolt hole in the bumper behind your plate. What did you use for a bracket? I have an original bracket, but it will have the plate sitting higher up over the bumper. Quote
Seaside Pete Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Larry I hope this pic uploads ok as it is the first one that I have done. This is the bracket that is on my P15 which puts the plate in the center of the bumper. Pete 1 Quote
Niel Hoback Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 That's the bracket I have also. Quote
Mark D Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Same front bracket for me, carries my club plate at the moment. Rear is single plate YOM. Quote
martybose Posted February 3, 2015 Report Posted February 3, 2015 Ironically my 47 is the only car of mine that has a front plate installed, and that is just because I wanted someplace to display my Rhythm Riot plaque. Other than that, I haven't had a front plate on any of my cars for the last 3 decades, even though they are required here in California. Marty Quote
Old School Posted February 3, 2015 Report Posted February 3, 2015 Same front bracket for me, carries my club plate at the moment. Rear is single plate YOM. If memory serves me, that you can choose to bolt the plate either from the top or bottom holes on the bracket and therefore choose how high it sits. Quote
1950 Special Deluxe Posted February 4, 2015 Report Posted February 4, 2015 New Saskatchewan Collector Plate Ivan Stanley was my Father in Laws uncle and was the owner most of us remember. Ivan's mother was the original owner. Quote
timkingsbury Posted February 4, 2015 Report Posted February 4, 2015 My 1947 P15 has three front bumperettes. One of them is dead center. It came to me that way and it appears that it has always had them. I don't know if this was an old time custom touch or an option. The problem is that it leaves no bolt hole to use in mounting a license plate bracket. Have you folks seen cars set up like this? How is your front license plate mounted? I have the bracket and plan to paint it Rustoleum gloss black enamel. Is this correct? As Robin says, it was a factory or dealer option. I have seen them with and without, on vehicles who have not changed hands... or at least not families The center bumper guard was a factory option for cars supplied in States that didn't require a front plate. Factory promo picture attached, and a few other old photos I found on the web... Even in Ontario Canada where you have to run a front plate it was still an option. The plate mount was to the drives side of the middle bumper guard. At least it was on a 1949 4 door we had. Larry I hope this pic uploads ok as it is the first one that I have done. This is the bracket that is on my P15 which puts the plate in the center of the bumper. Pete Mine is the same as Pete's in terms of the bracket placement on my 1949, and here is the plate on my 49 business coupe. In Ontario you can use a YOM (year of manufacture) date plate on your car and if your car is early enough you only have to run 1 plate. Cars on the back and trucks on the back. I cant remember what year that is but it is definitely prior to any p15-d24 being born... lol Quote
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