Blue Dots, etc

[pflaming]

Every now and then these two blue dots and whatever appear and then I cannot post and I don't know how to delete them. So . . . what gives?

[Plymouthy Adams]

ok PP not like the blue dots on last nights joke I hope....I am lost what blue dots are you talking about...anything else on the screen that would tell us more?

[pflaming]

the dots are adjacent to each other often with brackets within the dots. Yes they appeared during chat last night, but I thought maybe those were caused by some 'southern voodoo'. Not so sure now.

[Don Coatney]

I used to have blue dots but I got rid of them.

 

[Plymouthy Adams]

I know where they went....lol...thanks

[Don Coatney]

I know where they went....lol...thanks

You are welcome. Make good use of them

[Andydodge]

I like blue dots.........have had them for 40 yrs in the Dodge.......varoom!.......the Plymouth liked them too..........varoom again.......lol............andyd

[Reg Evans]

I especially like fuzzy dice with blue dots !

[wdoland]

Where did the dots on the taillights come from? Were they a 50's thing? Why are blue dots more desirable then red dots or white dots. Please tell me the history of the dots!

[Don Coatney]

Where did the dots on the taillights come from? Were they a 50's thing? Why are blue dots more desirable then red dots or white dots. Please tell me the history of the dots!

You might find this thread from the HAMB of interest.

 

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/blue-dot-history.73318/

[Don Coatney]

I especially like fuzzy dice with blue dots !

Stay home gramps

[Plymouthy Adams]

they are considered a safety device when properly mounted in the lens..the blending of the red and the blue makes afor a much brighter tail light..in the day when glass lenses were standard equipment the thick dark glass often made for a dimmer light shinning toward the rear..the blue dot cures a lot of that to the point they were considered then and now as a safety item along with nostalgia..I think use today more is more nostalgic appearance...personally I like them..I like the fact my state says they legal to use...I have had people follow me in my '54 and when at a stop light come alongside and say...wow...I can really see them tail lights from afar...so looks and safety is my combined reason for their use..

[Andydodge]

Don, that HAMB thread mentioned the use of blue dots by Cadillac & Packard in the early 30's and that's something I have seen referred to before......I'd think that as a result of that they were introduced by Lynx Eye as an accessory to "smarten up" your car and it progressed from there.......the ones in the brown Dodge were offered to me 40yrs ago after a guy bumped the back of my car and broke the standard lens, which as you can see was a 1940 Plymouth setup(used here in Oz)......these pair of Lynx Eye lenses came still in there Lynx Eye boxes and I couldn't believe they were here in Oz.....needless to say I bought and installed them straight away, although I recently replaced the chrome circular clip that holds the blue dot with a pair from a replacement set as the original had started to rust........I suppose after 70yrs that may have been expected........lol..........the centre one that was in the Plymouth I bought on US ebay just after buying the car, it was sold as a pair..........lol.......andyd  

[pflaming]

To all: my question regarding "blue" dots referred to such that appear at times on my computer screen. Does the term 'hi-jacking" remain in the lexicon of "please avoid"? LOL

Edited August 13, 2014 by pflaming

[Don Coatney]

I still have a couple of Lynx Eye boxes in my stash of empty boxes.

 

[DJ194950]

Paul, you still seeing dots before your eyes? Are they always blue? NSA?

What you been looking at on the net?

 

Suggest trying a different search engine to get to the site and see if the same.

 

Just a thought, as you know that I'm computer retarded !

 

DJ

[Old School]

You might find this thread from the HAMB of interest.

 

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/blue-dot-history.73318/

 

Thanks for the link.

[desoto1939]

If you are talking about the blue Dots that the hot rodders  installed into the rear brake lens on their cars, I do know that these were illegal in many states.  tHEY AFFECTED THE COLOR OF THE BRAKE AND RUNNING LIGHTS FROM THE REAR.  I know IN PA they were illegal to use.  If you are talking about the use of the Blue Dot that was installed in the chrome trim surronf then they might provide a warning or reflector for a car coming up from the back.  The factory Dot would have been red and they would have been glass and looked like a red marble but were reflective at night time. 

 

Sometimes you will see that Mother MoPAr use the small red flector style dot like what you could use that had a wing nut on the back to attach to your licence p-late to alo help warm motorist when approaching from the rear.  I have seen both stle used inthe chrome frame on my 1939 Desoto.  But the true factory would be the glass cat eye marble style.

LAter on Mother Mopar then would but a  round bulb on the left rear taillight lens and this smallround bulb would have been only used on the left tiallight. This bulb would have been painted silver or of a refelctive type material.  This was to warn approaching  motorists if your car was parked along side the highway at the curb.

 

So If you see a car that has both of these bulbs onthe right and left this would be incorrect.

 

Rich Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

[Plymouthy Adams]

hey Rich

 

states are slowing coming online with blue dot legality....while the car seem to be still prohibited, the motorcycles gained legality in 2006 in Pennsylvania..

§ 4310. Motorcycle lighting.
Auxiliary lighting may be added to a motorcycle to protect the driver, including blue dot illumination, standard bulb running lights and light-emitting diode (LED) pods and strips.
(June 29, 2006, P.L.205, No.50, eff. 60 days)
2006 Amendment. Act 50 added section 4310.

maybe in time they will move amend to include antique and classic cars...

[desoto1939]

Ply Adams:  Thanks for posting the Revised PA state law on blue dot lighting. See we all leran something new everyday.

 

Rich HArtung

[Don Coatney]

Pictured is the P-15 factory glass lens top left and right. An aftermarket lens with no blue dot top center.

 

In the next row are Lynx aftermarket glass lens with the blue dot and on the left a blue bicycle reflector that I added to replace the faded red reflectors that can be seen in the next row.

 

The second picture is a blue dot than can be purchased separately and installed in a lens if you have a means to drill a hole in the glass lens. Also a blue bicycle reflector.

 

 

[desoto1939]

Don:  Thanks for postin gthe various examples of the use of the Blue Dots in the lens and inthe chrome surrounds.

 

In my reference to the use of the Blue Dots I was refering the use of them directly being put into the glass and or plastic lens and not to the use of them as the reflector in the Chrome surrounds.

 

Also thanks to Ply Adams on the update on the PA LAw for the use of the blue dots.  So any one that is going to install the blue Dots should also contact their local state laws to verify if they are legal or not legal.  You might get a ticket or you might not. I gues it depends on how tight the local and state police want to enforce the laws or just want to bust your chops.

 

Rich Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

[Plymouthy Adams]

It is still a shade of gray when using the blue....lol     While my state does allow them to be used and totally legal.  I am still advised to print and carry in my car a copy of the law.  Now that could mean all the difference between a hassle or a casual nod and an excuse me.  I have never gotten a definitive answer point blank on out of state with blue dots even if state of registration allows them but the gist behind printing the law and having it on you was to remind of state officers that GA does allow them and by what I understand, Georgia Registration Reciprocity is an agreement entered into between state to honor/accept their laws in situations such as this and the way they register/title cars and though they are not a title state 85 and back..other states HAVE to accept their registration process when vehicle is sold out of state..  Sticky wickets at times... Their are many facets of this reciprocity and vehicles operation including reporting traffic violations back to the home state.  Right now Ga is of about 4 state states that IS NOT currently on the nationwide agreement to report driving infractions..you could or could net get a message back to your home state form here that would deduct points on your license or up your insurance rates..just that they are not required to report is all...

[TodFitch]

I would have thought that using blue dots would, if illegal in the state, result in an equipment violation rather than a driving (moving or parking) violation. And I was under the impression that only the driving related issues would be reported back by the national reporting system.

 

But having never planned on having either type of violation, I haven't really looked into it.

 

There are flat out equipment violations I see on old cars at every show and tour I go to. For example California requires two rear view mirrors but many "restored to original" cars don't have that. But I've never seen or heard of equipment violation citations being issued. My impression is that a lot of people in law enforcement are sympathetic to old cars and their owners.

[Plymouthy Adams]

^{did not mean to confuse..Tod...just stating that there are many different reciprocity laws/plans back and forth between states..I did not mean to say in any manner that a blue dot violation would be a report back...BUT...it could as in some states the wording is such that their laws sate that any direct projected blue beam from the rear of a vehicle would be a safety violation and in many cases a direct violation of the law/emergency vehicle enforcement lighting codes (ie blue lens)..the other nationwide plan to report traffic violation  I mentioned is a total separate plan form the vehicle registration one...yes..very confusing..but worth mentioning as all states are NOT  in total agreement. on all issues.....but still very interesting at the same time..the blue dot is one statue that I am concerned with, YOM tags is another and weapon carry permit is yet another. issue of concern...here I am license to openly carry my weapon.. and we have reciprocity in 27 other states that recognize my carry permit....}