Bingster Posted June 17, 2014 Report Posted June 17, 2014 A few years back I seem to recall that some aftermarket brake cylinder vendors didn't have quality products. Who is recomended for brake cylinders today? Quote
_shel_ny Posted June 18, 2014 Report Posted June 18, 2014 Seems many are now sourced "off shore" even if they say Raybestos , or other. Having yours sleeved may be a better choice. Quote
RobertKB Posted June 18, 2014 Report Posted June 18, 2014 Consider having them sleeved. That is the route I am going with all cylinders on my '48 Dodge D25. It costs but I should never have to do them again as long as I own the car, hopefully another 20+ years as I am now 65. I went with White Post as they offer a full life-time warranty on all sleeved and rebuilt cylinders. I phoned them with lots of questions and liked the answers so I am going with them. I told myself the next time I had a leaky cylinder this was the route I was going. One of the passenger fronts started leaking so I am doing them all. Also going to replace all original steel lines at this point. All three rubbers hoses were replaced not long ago so will leave them. All shoes good except for the ones with brake fluid on them so will redo those two. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted June 18, 2014 Report Posted June 18, 2014 little off the topic but my friend toured the White Post facility and reported at how amazing their entire setup is and how they handle each item or car as it comes in. If going with sleeving I have only heard good of these folks.. Quote
Bingster Posted June 18, 2014 Author Report Posted June 18, 2014 Yeah, I've heard of them. They must totally sandblast the metal and get them back to specs. Quote
desoto1939 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Posted June 18, 2014 I have persoanlly visited the White Post restoration facility several times. The National Desoto Club held one of their annual convnetions on the White Post property. They had just completed a restoration of a 57 Desoto at that time. Also when Billy Thompson was alive, he was the owner of White Post, he would host a weekend event onhis property for all car owners to attend. His shop was open to visitiros to look at what his skilled craftsmen do. we did notice at that time he did not have the new computerized equipment but was using the good old lathes inwhich they miced the piece they were working on. So the restores in his shop had to have the tecnical and also work experience skills to get the job done properly. White post has always done great work. They drill out the cylinders and then instert a sleeve and then they make sure this is at the correct spec for each item. Costly but done right and then you still hvae the old original part but new guts onthe inside. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com Quote
Tim Keith Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 The master cylinder on my '47 Dodge truck has dual circuits. The man who sold me the truck said that a larger model power wagon truck used this mc, maybe '67. I wonder if this type of master cylinder could be used on a P15 ? It looks like the OEM '47 system except it has two reservoirs and brake lines. Quote
MacGyver Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 I honed and rebuilt some of mine but the ones that were too pitted needed replacement. I ordered through www.rockauto.com though I cannot recall which brand I purchased. They had the best price I could find and the part was as expected and has served perfectly for the last 2 years (so far so good). They recently emailed me a 5% discount code if you decide to purchase through them. Enter at checkout: 2311114421253610 Quote
Bingster Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Posted July 20, 2014 I looked on the White Post web site but could not find prices. Anybody know how much a front cylinder resleeve and rebuilding costs? Quote
desoto1939 Posted July 20, 2014 Report Posted July 20, 2014 There pricing depends on if the cylinder is a step cylinder with two different size bores. You will need to call them directly. Someone stated they thought they sand blasted the cylinders. No the bore them out and then pressing a stainless steel sleeve. I would always look for a NOS Stock cylinder before buying a newer cylinder and then prefer a sleeved cylinder over the Crap that is being sold by some venders. They do very good quality work. Rich Hartung Quote
Bingster Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Posted July 20, 2014 Rich, if I found a NOS cylinder, do you think the rubber boot would need to be replaced after all these years? Doesn't rubber break down? Quote
deathbound Posted July 21, 2014 Report Posted July 21, 2014 Rich, if I found a NOS cylinder, do you think the rubber boot would need to be replaced after all these years? Doesn't rubber break down? For as inexpensive as a wheel cylinder rebuild kit is, wouldn't hurt to change the rubber parts, if you find an NOS one. As has been mentioned, have yours (hopefully original) re-sleeved with stainless steel, they will never pit, you won't end up with foreign junk that MAY last a few years, & then be in the same boat. I had mine re-sleeved & they were the step bore type, cost $75 each & they bead blasted the wheel cylinders. I used http://www.brakeplace.com/ & they can supply you with the rebuild kits also. Very happy with their service-fast turn around time & they paid the return shipping, if I remember correctly. Quote
desoto1939 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Posted July 21, 2014 With any NOS product, remember NOS meant that it was new back many many years ago. So you are looking at rubber parts that have been sitting for many years and you do not know where the part was sitting. It might have been in a damp room, sun light hitting them. So yes replace with fresh Rubber and not ones that you find at a swap meet. Go to your NAPA store of to one of our parts suppliesr on the Web and get fresh rubber inner and outer seals and cups. Rich HArtung Desoto1939@aol.com Quote
jcmiller Posted July 21, 2014 Report Posted July 21, 2014 Here are prices from a few companies from two years ago: http://p15-d24.com/topic/29600-best-brake-cylinder-mc-rebuild-shops/ Quote
Purevil Posted July 21, 2014 Report Posted July 21, 2014 Most Auto parts houses ( O'rilleys, H-O, NAPA, ect) use Cardone industries for new and rebuilt brake master and slave cylinders. Most of which have a 3 year/36000 mile waranty. Most of the parts need to be looked up in the book and crossed over to the newer part number for them, but the knowledgeable ones behind the counter should be able to help. as an example a 1950 dodge wayfarer at NAPA use to be 3241 and the rebuild kit was 143. the rebuild kit number is still good (about $22) but the complete master cylinder number has changed to P33792 for a rebuilt one ( about $125) or M3241 for a new one(about$262). Quote
Tim Keith Posted July 22, 2014 Report Posted July 22, 2014 Rock Auto lists wheel cylinders and master cylinders for the '47 De Soto but no brake drums. Quote
desoto1939 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Posted July 23, 2014 Here are your wheel cylinder numbers RR EW10588 LR EW10588 RF upper EW10581 lower EW10583 LF upper EW10580 lower EW10582 Hoses Front SP967 Rear SP790 Taken from my wagner Brake catalog Rich HArtung Quote
KWCB2D126 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 Check http://hagensautoparts.com/ That's where I got the cylinders for my 1950 B2D truck. Great guys to talk to. They are true car guys. Quote
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