greg g Posted October 11, 2013 Report Posted October 11, 2013 I saw this on another forum, and skipped over it. I then went back and noticed the cars look like 50 something Dodges, then I noticed the grille bars. Is this mongrel looking thing based on a Dodge??? Quote
De Soto Frank Posted October 11, 2013 Report Posted October 11, 2013 Looks like '51 Dodges on the carrier, and some mad scientist klodged a '48-'50 Pilot-House with a Mack "cherry-picker" ! Quote
GlennCraven Posted October 11, 2013 Report Posted October 11, 2013 Ugly? That thing's awesome! ... I want one! Seriously, once I get the hang of this stuff -- which could be never -- two things I want to restore or even fabricate are a vintage cab and chassis-based horse hauler and a car hauler, like this Mercedes, or that Pilot House above, or even a D-700 like the one once owned by Cotton Owens (below). Quote
Young Ed Posted October 11, 2013 Report Posted October 11, 2013 Sure looks like 48-50 pilot house grill bars and it appears to say dodge just above that. The 2 closest to the truck are 51 plymouths and the third is a 51-52 dodge. Quote
JBNeal Posted October 11, 2013 Report Posted October 11, 2013 Look close & ya might see the COE ram hood medallion...but the D-O-D-G-E nose emblem & grill bars make me think 'Route Van'...I'm gonna guess that thar is a special order Cab & Chassis with a wicked steering, brake & throttle linkage setup Quote
Frank Ollian Posted October 12, 2013 Report Posted October 12, 2013 Now thats a real Pilothouse. 1 Quote
Scruffy49 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Posted October 12, 2013 Glenn, make a run out to Graham WA. Just east of Meridian on 224th St is a Pilot House horse hauler. Complete. He uses it to store/feed hay, hasn't moved in years. I wanted it something fierce when we lived out there from 10/01-3/11. There is also a 4 headlight Sweptline version in Puyallup that was supposed to end up in AZ a few years ago, D400 or so sized. 1 Quote
GlennCraven Posted October 12, 2013 Report Posted October 12, 2013 Glenn, make a run out to Graham WA. Just east of Meridian on 224th St is a Pilot House horse hauler. Complete. He uses it to store/feed hay, hasn't moved in years. I wanted it something fierce when we lived out there from 10/01-3/11. There is also a 4 headlight Sweptline version in Puyallup that was supposed to end up in AZ a few years ago, D400 or so sized. Oh sweeeeeeeeeeet. Quote
41/53dodges Posted October 13, 2013 Report Posted October 13, 2013 Wasnt there a rig made from a pilothouse kinda like this awhile back? Pretty sure it had the exact same axle configuration Quote
NiftyFifty Posted October 13, 2013 Report Posted October 13, 2013 That's one awesome PH!!! I'd kill for a beauty like that! Quote
John-T-53 Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 You can even see the remnants of the front fender curves above the headlights. Not sure if this would be considered a cannibalization or what... Quote
rustrunner Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 The back tires on the truck are interesting. It looks like it has tandem axels, but each with only one tire, and with the front turned out, and the back turned in. Or am I just seeing things. Quote
Young Ed Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 Looks like a set of duals and then a single with the possibility of making that a set of duals too. Quote
41/53dodges Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Looks like a set of duals and then a single with the possibility of making that a set of duals too.That farthest back axle looks like a regular front axle judging by the lack of a drive hub, wonder if it steers? Man, that would be complicated Edited October 15, 2013 by 41/53dodges Quote
Don Coatney Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 , that would be complicated That looks easy. This would be complicated. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) there are concrete pumper trucks that have wheels that articulate like that. Edited October 15, 2013 by ggdad1951 Quote
41/53dodges Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) there are concrete pumper trucks that have wheels that articulate like that.Indeed, but im not sure hydraulic steering was quite there yet in the 50's, was it? Most cement trucks have hydraulic lines, this would almost have to have a mechanical link of some sort to the back. Either way, interesting piece of engineering for sure! Edited October 15, 2013 by 41/53dodges Quote
41/53dodges Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 That looks easy. This would be complicated. You're right Don, that thing is complicated. Did anybody else notice 2 driveshafts going back? What was that masterpiece called anyway? Quote
Don Coatney Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 Built by Eisenhauer Mfg. Located in Van Wert, Ohio. This was a prototype late WW2 military vehicle that never went into production. Note the two stovebolt tandem 6 cylinder engines. In the early 1980's I bought an old fertilizer building in Cavett, Ohio and this truck was sitting in the back of the lot so I got a hands on look at it. I bought the building at auction and this truck sold at that auction. I assume it has been sent to China, crushed, and turned into parts for those cute little umbrellas that top off your favorite summer beverage. http://www.eisenhauermfg.com/history.html Quote
Merle Coggins Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 Indeed, but im not sure hydraulic steering was quite there yet in the 50's, was it? Most cement trucks have hydraulic lines, this would almost have to have a mechanical link of some sort to the back. Either way, interesting piece of engineering for sure! Actually, most of those steerable tag axles steer themselves. They merely follow along and turn as necessary when the truck turns. It's similar to towing another vehicle with a tow bar. The front wheels of the towed vehicle steer themselves as you go around a corner. Quote
austinsailor Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 The dual front axle trucks mentioned earlier have been common in Europe since at least the 60's. It should be a simple math problem to figure the gears to get them to make the same turn. And, strange this should come up, as I followed and later passed a big oil field truck this morning set up this way. Longer cab, dual steer axles quite similar to the pictures earlier in this thread, about a 30' flat bed with two rear drive axles. I didn't notice, but I'm guessing both front axles were also driven. Quote
HanksB3B Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 Hey Gene, I think you would do that truck justice. hank Quote
41/53dodges Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 Actually, most of those steerable tag axles steer themselves. They merely follow along and turn as necessary when the truck turns. It's similar to towing another vehicle with a tow bar. The front wheels of the towed vehicle steer themselves as you go around a corner.Huh , learn something new every day! Thanks for the lesson in trucks! Quote
austinsailor Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 Hey Gene, I think you would do that truck justice. hank I could really haul rusty gold home if I had that! My wife would have a cow. Quote
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