New Brake Shoes For My 48 B1F

[Bradley S.]

Hi all;

 

I have been searching the threads, and making some phone call; namely to Tennessee Clutch and Hagen's Hiway Auto Parts (Roberts was closed).  I have not yet been able to find a source for front (or rear for that matter) brake shoes.  The front drums are 14-1/8" by 2".  Hagen's shows them on their website P/N 00092 but they don't have any.  They can reline the cores.

 

Do you know of anyone who sells the entire shoe assembly versus just linings?

 

As always, any help greatly appreciated.  I attached some pictures.  Reckon I can drive the rest of the summer but then I need to redo the front brakes, both sides. I was having the wheel cylinder rebuilt and we soon realized the brake shoes are on their lasts legs.

 

I also need a grease seal for the wheel bearing. Picture of that attached too.  Any thoughts on where I can find them?

 

Thank you!!

 

Brad

[Don Coatney]

Did you talk to Tennessee Clutch about re-lining your shoes?

[Bradley S.]

_{Yes, they can do it!}

[Dodgeb4ya]

I have done several Big Dodge trucks. I always have them relined and arc'd. Today no one carries those shoes as there is no popular market for them.

[TodFitch]

Never occurred to me that it would be possible to get new shoes for my '33, I've always taken them to the local brake and friction shop to be rebuilt. Different shops in different towns, good results each time. Just find out who the local repair shops that specialize in brake work use for their supplier. I've done that since the 1970s.

[ggdad1951]

Try B&E in Minneapolis, they might have a line on something?  They as well would reline old shoes...and do a heck of a job!

 

 

Brake & Equipment Warehouse

 

Address: 455 Harrison St NE, Minneapolis, MN 55413

Phone:(612) 378-3141

Hours:

 

Friday hours 8:00 am–5:00 pm

 See your review.

[desoto1939]

from looking at the picture of your one she the rivets are very close to the lining and if you drive the truck some more you might start digging into the drum and then will cost you even more to get the drum cut and if the damage is to deep then have to get new drums.

 

I woud send them out now when the master cyl is also being done.  Do you know the mopar number for the fron wheel seal. I might be able to find a victor or national number for you. I have several catalogs and might beable to help.

 

Also have several listing on brake parts and linings so I can help on that too but need to know the year and model of the truck to do some lookup.

 

Rich Hartung

desoto1939@aol.com

[Bradley S.]

Check out my newly relined front brake shoes.  I also replaced both wheel cylinders on general principals.  All of the adjusters were frozen. 

[Dodgeb4ya]

Wow! Just like the originals-woven linings! Look good.

[desoto1939]

I noticed that you did not champer the ends so now you have a blunt end. When new linings are put on both ends  are cut at an angle to help  when the wheel is rotating so it  rotates and there is not chnae of breaking the ends since there are square.

 

Rich Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

[wallytoo]

i don't believe "he" did anything to them, as the shoes were sent out to a shop for rebuilding. i too just sent out my front shoes to have them rebuilt, and i have no intention of doing anything to them upon getting them back from the rebuilder, other than installing them. if there's no chamfer, that's the way the shoes are going to be installed. if there's a chamfer, that's the way the shoes are going to be installed. the linings appear to be woven material, too, not the more modern "hard" linings, so it may not be possible to "champer" them anyway.

[wallytoo]

I also need a grease seal for the wheel bearing. Picture of that attached too. Any thoughts on where I can find them?

brad, rock auto has them listed, if you google "919277 wheel seal". this also turns up an ebay item that appears correct, and a few other places.

i bought 2 back in 2007 from a dodge dealership in texas. probably sitting on their shelves for a good 30 years, now in my truck.

edit: 919277 must be the superceded number. that's what i used in my hubs, same truck as yours, and they've been installed for at least 4 years. no issues. the original number for the seal might be 493291.

Edited September 13, 2013 by wallytoo

[Dodgeb4ya]

i don't believe "he" did anything to them, as the shoes were sent out to a shop for rebuilding. i too just sent out my front shoes to have them rebuilt, and i have no intention of doing anything to them upon getting them back from the rebuilder, other than installing them. if there's no chamfer, that's the way the shoes are going to be installed. if there's a chamfer, that's the way the shoes are going to be installed. the linings appear to be woven material, too, not the more modern "hard" linings, so it may not be possible to "champer" them anyway.

The original woven shoes on one of my 2-3/4 tonners had no bevel on the shoes and is correct.

Bob

[Bradley S.]

Hi all;

 

You are correct, I did not do a darn thing, other than write the check.  I was impressed that the shop cleaned them up and painted the cores. Leach Enterprises, Inc. 4304 Route 176, Crystal Lake, IL 60014 did the work.  815-459-6917

 

Now I have new brakes and wheel cylinders all the way around.  Rear brakes were done just a couple hundred miles ago.  Big Red stops on a dime and the pedal is rock solid.  When it comes to brakes I like to leave the labor to an experienced mechanic and use all new / rebuilt parts.  I just do not have the tools and expertise to do it right.  The mechanic said they bled the brakes for an hour.  That alone would have put me in divorce court.

 

The brake system on these old trucks are only as good as the weakest part.  If one things lets loose, no brakes.

 

Thanks for the information on the grease seal.  I recorded that number in my technical book.  The grease seal I used is a Chicago Rawhide P/N 22835.  It matched up real well.

 

Going for a ride right now!

 

Brad

[MBF]

Brad:  Do you have the number for the inner and out rear seals that you used?  I've got to rebuild or replace the rear cyls on my 49 B2-JA and I'm hesitant to take it apart until I know that there are seals available.  Mike

Edited September 13, 2013 by MBFowler

[Dodgeb4ya]

 The inner rear drum seals are different on the Eaton 2 speed heavy duty from the single speed and std duty 2 speed axles.

Your OE MoPar rear inner drum seal is...  #574563. This fits all series JA 2 speed trucks.

My Master CR seal book shows it converts to a 33807.

Bob

Edited September 13, 2013 by Dodgeb4ya

[wallytoo]

got my shoes back from the rebuilder yesterday. original-style woven linings. the rebuilder painted the shoes, and added a chamfer to the leading/trailing edges of the linings. so, that's the way they got installed.