White Spyder Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) The time has come to give my Windsor's carb a re-build. Thought I would share a step by step to help others in the future. This is my first time to rebuild a carter so any pointers or addtions will be welcomed. This is what I am starting out with. Very dirty after all these years!First of course, is to remove the air cleaner. My car has the automatic choke and the next is disconnecting the electrical connections. The one on top is a simple bullet plug. The one on the side requires that you remove two small screwsand pull the wire from inside the carb.There are two linkage rods that come next. On the back side is the accellorator and on the side is the choke connection.Accellorator linkageChoke linkagered arrow shows the choke linkage. It is removed by unclipping the clamp shown in the next photo with the arrows. I placed it back on the rod after i disconnected it to keep it from getting lost. Edited July 14, 2013 by White Spyder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) With the linkages disconnected the fuel and Vac lines are next. Fuel line. Vac line You can now remove the two bolts at the base that hold the carb to the manafold. Again I replaced them for safe keeping. This photo shows the two bolts with the yellow arrows. The base had two gaskets.(red arrows stacked the way they came off) they are made of two typs of material, one may be some type of spacer. Edited July 10, 2013 by White Spyder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) I now took the carb to the work bench for addtional tear down. There are several screws on the top to remove and then you can see the inside of the top of the carb. The blue arrow points to the thin clip that is pulled strait up. This frees the float for removal. The yellow one is the fuel inlet nut that is removed to gain access to the inlet jet. Both are shown below. Float Inlet jet and nut Edited July 10, 2013 by White Spyder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave72dt Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Post # 2 _ was that an oil line or a vacuum line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Further teardown requires the removal of the linkages at the bottom of the carb. On the throttle side, loosen the screw and then use a flat bladded screwdriver to pry the gap open enough to slip the linkage from the post. The bottom cam just slips off its post. Once done remove the connecting rods from both places. On the choke side there is two rods that hold parts in and you will need to remove more linkages. The yellow arrows point to the tangs of a spring hidding behind the linkages. Use a small flat blade screwdriver to release the spring. once done you can pry the linkage off of the post marked by the blue arrow. the red ons show where 2 small rods connect to the linkage. These can now be removed and set to the side for re-assembly later Edited July 10, 2013 by White Spyder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Now Back to the top of the carb to remove the rest of the bits and parts. Most will now slip off. The first is a part with a spring poking up from it. Edited July 10, 2013 by White Spyder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Post # 2 _ was that an oil line or a vacuum line? Vac thanks for the catch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 More up top removal of parts. From near the float, the pump. To get the next out remove the screw at the top and lift out both parts together. then use a scredriver to remove the jet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) From the bottom of the float bowl there are two jets to remove. The first is done with a screwdriver. The Yellow arrow shows the one that is removed with a ratchet.. More when I can resize the photos and have time to post!!! Edited July 10, 2013 by White Spyder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) Back with more. Now to where the carb gets its name, the balls. In the float bowl there are two. One is covered with a brass cap (this is the larger ball) and the other is held in by a clip. The clip is a thin "c" shapped wire and can be a challange to remove. the larger ball and cap The yellow arrow shows where the larger ball goes. The red shows the smaller ball in place with the wire clip. A small flat bladed screwdriver and patients with set it free. Edited July 14, 2013 by White Spyder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 THere are 2 screws that now need to be removed to seperate the bowl assembly from the base. to my suprise there was acctually another assembly between them. Be careful when you saperat thiese as there is a small part that will fall out from between the bowl assembly and the small assembly. THis show the small assembly as it attached to the bottom of the bowl assembly and the location of the screws that hold all three together. This is the part that will fall out of the base of the bowl assembly. Where is goes in the base of the bowl assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 There is one more part to remove from the bowl assembly befor cleaning all the parts. It is the fuel inlet jet. It is covered by a small cap that you will nee to pry off with a flat bladded screwdriver. Once it is off you can uncrew the jet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 I do not have a parts washer so I used this to clean things up. I think it did a good job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) With 500 grit sand papper I lightly re-serfaced each of the serfaces that a gasget would go and I used a few drops of 3 in one oil on all the butterfly shafts inside and outside the carb to make sure every thing moved freely. The re-build kit was purchased from Andy B's. It is mostly gaskets. Plenty I am sure are for other applications. It also has the balls and one of the shafts that go into the tube on the pump bowl. Since both are covered in leather I called to ask about the one for the pump and was told that it is not included nor was it available as a seperate purchase. I hope that this does not turn out to be a failure point in the re-build. Now re-assemble in the reverse order. With each gasket I will lightly spray a bit of silicone on the surface to keep them from sticking incase I have to go back for a forgotten item. Edited July 14, 2013 by White Spyder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 You might have seen my thread on re-building my Carter BB with automatic choke. Dispite what I though to be good photos of the process, I have run into 2 snags as I re-assemble the carb. I have a question about the gasket on the fuel bowl. Ther is a part circled in red below. Does it sit above or below the gasket? Photo A or B Photo A Photo B With the re-build kit I received a new fuel inlet nut that seems to differ from the original. The new one appears to be one piece while the old one had a part the slides in and out freely as the float rises. Is the one that came in the kit for another application or a replacement? The little ball on the new one is very hard to push in. Thanks for your help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Why a new thread. Perhaps a moderator can move this to the other open carburetor thread. This sure looks like part of the rebuild. Better to keep everything about the rebuild in one area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg g Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Does the rubber part fit up into the top of the float bowl cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Why a new thread. Perhaps a moderator can move this to the other open carburetor thread. This sure looks like part of the rebuild. Better to keep everything about the rebuild in one area. Don, Thought about that but wanted to keep this clean of other questions and needed to have the questions answered so this thread could move forward without the issue getting lost in the regular re-build process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Does the rubber part fit up into the top of the float bowl cover? The gasket? Not sure what rubber part you are referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg g Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) in photo A there looks to be a rubber washer surrounding the spring. Does this fit into a recess in the top of the carb? I am not familiar with the one with that dashpot but it looks like either the washer fits ito a relief or the gasket needs to be trimmed to fit around it, but again I am not familiar with that carb. Edited July 15, 2013 by greg g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) The antistall plunger unit with the spring in the top is installed after the carb top gasket is put in place. It has to be able to be pulled up into the carb top recess by the solenoid above it. There is no rubber part of it-just the top gasket. See the pics.... I have never seen a MoPar flathead all in one needle and seat like the one you recieved. Not sure about that! Bob Edited July 15, 2013 by Dodgeb4ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Don, Thought about that but wanted to keep this clean of other questions and needed to have the questions answered so this thread could move forward without the issue getting lost in the regular re-build process. You found these issues as part of the rebuild. Others who do a rebuild will find these issues too. You have really done a great job of sharing all the rebuild information and I thank you for posting this thread. A lot of folks come here only looking for information. It is terrific to see you share information. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) I thought on top of the gasket. Thanks for the confirmation. Edited July 15, 2013 by White Spyder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 You found these issues as part of the rebuild. Others who do a rebuild will find these issues too. You have really done a great job of sharing all the rebuild information and I thank you for posting this thread. A lot of folks come here only looking for information. It is terrific to see you share information. Thank you. Good point and thanks. As I look at it this site is like my local club and this was like having a group over to do the rebuild together. We all benefit from sharing information. Couldn't find it but there is a great photo of a bunch of guys all under the hood of an old car from the '50's . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Spyder Posted July 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) WIth the gasket question answered I finished the assembly and thought I would share the fruits of my labor! It really cleaned up nice. When I get home from a business trip it will go on and then we will see if it works. Edited July 15, 2013 by White Spyder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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