J.R. Posted March 3, 2014 Report Posted March 3, 2014 That would be too ratroddish and friends don't let friends drive rat rods. This one is getting 48 VW red with tan interior, no pin stripes, no flake just one solid color. She is going to be a classy bi**h and not some painted up trollup from the 60's (like my truck). We just installed a new muffler yesterday.... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=czBBaIc-t3U 1 Quote
fstfish66 Posted March 3, 2014 Report Posted March 3, 2014 That would be too ratroddish and friends don't let friends drive rat rods. This one is getting 48 VW red with tan interior, no pin stripes, no flake just one solid color. She is going to be a classy bi**h and not some painted up trollup from the 60's (like my truck). We just installed a new muffler yesterday.... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=czBBaIc-t3U nothing rat rodish about it,, most people confuse the term rat rod much like the term RARE,,, still has a meen stance Quote
old rat 49 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/Universal_Coil_Springs.asp This gives all the coil spring info we need if I copied this correctly. Quote
old rat 49 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 Also on the MOOG site are place we should be able to identify our sway bar bushings and tie rod ends. Quote
Mark D Posted March 6, 2014 Report Posted March 6, 2014 Though of you guys tonight when this popped up on my facebook feed. Quote
48ply1stcar Posted March 6, 2014 Report Posted March 6, 2014 COIL SPRING QUESTIONS It seems that I have read about new springs forever. Did I miss something or does It appear that as a group we don't have the stock specifications for the coil springs so that they can be compared to the specs of newly manufactured springs. Does anyone have the Specs of the stock springs? Are the Moog CC850's coil springs a close match? Has anyone purchased new NOS springs from one the suppliers ie Bernbaum? Quote
48ply1stcar Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 Just received the perfect example. I received the latest Kanter catalog. The coil springs for 1939 to 1956 Plymouths are $220 and $250 from Dodge. After spending thousands on body and paint $220 for springs won't break the bank. I just wonder if the exact same spring is available at a much lower price. Quote
DCurrent Posted March 9, 2014 Report Posted March 9, 2014 Just received the perfect example. I received the latest Kanter catalog. The coil springs for 1939 to 1956 Plymouths are $220 and $250 from Dodge. After spending thousands on body and paint $220 for springs won't break the bank. I just wonder if the exact same spring is available at a much lower price. I think if it were me I'd go this route. It's not an easy task to replace these springs and saving $100 give or take a few bucks, isn't worth it to me either. Taking a risk on cheaper springs hoping that they have the right stance, the right compression, and the right size is not for me. I'd hate to do it all over again if it's not right after it's all together. Just my opinion. Quote
Lumpy Posted March 10, 2014 Report Posted March 10, 2014 I ordered springs from "Spring Specialties" or something like that. I think it was Spring Specialties. I was able to specify the amount of drop I wanted, (they would not go over 2.5") and if I wanted the springs stiffer or softer than stock. I got the impression they make them up, don't stock them. I have not put them on yet, but should get to that soon. They cost a little more than $220, but again....I forgot! Will try to get them on soon and elvaluate them. ken. Quote
bbbbbb99 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Posted March 11, 2014 Just received the perfect example. I received the latest Kanter catalog. The coil springs for 1939 to 1956 Plymouths are $220 and $250 from Dodge. After spending thousands on body and paint $220 for springs won't break the bank. I just wonder if the exact same spring is available at a much lower price. I have an NOS set for a 1956 Plymouth for $100 + shipping. Never been installed. These are for a 6 cylinder car as well. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 11, 2014 Report Posted March 11, 2014 I personally think that shopping with Kanter is not showing good stewardship of hobby dollars to begin with....but that is just a personal reflection/opinion 1 Quote
fstfish66 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Posted March 12, 2014 I personally think that shopping with Kanter is not showing good stewardship of hobby dollars to begin with....but that is just a personal reflection/opinion im asking where would you shop ? im getting ready to pull my original cut coils out and replace them,, as soon as next week,,?? also stated 220 for plymouth springs and 250 for dodge springs ? why the price difference? its the same suspension,,,,i agree trying a cheaper spring is not worht the time and effort if you have to re do it again,, Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 12, 2014 Report Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Kanter makes no products..they are just a ONE STOP shopping experience most of the time...at a very inflated price compared...I do not use Kanter, Groit's Garage or Eastwood either as their prices border on the extreme..but that is solely my personal observation...you will be quite amazed at what your locals can do for you if you got the right people staffing it... Edited March 12, 2014 by Plymouthy Adams 1 Quote
fstfish66 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Posted March 12, 2014 ill ask around town,,,or fat man when i order parts next week,,,i dont think ide find any one local doing coil springs Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 12, 2014 Report Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) as in Kanter is doing springs?....not so sure you will not find anyone "doing" spring but I am sure you will find folks who will/can supply them for you...if you need to farm them out...then let the shop make the proper selection....many folks here have done this very thing and some just recently..they may or may not have listed their source.....if recently, good chance the search engine here will find the thread.. you mentioned asking fatman..is this a non stock suspension you inquire of? Edited March 12, 2014 by Plymouthy Adams Quote
fstfish66 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Posted March 12, 2014 it is currently an original 1940 dodge front suspension,,the previous owner installed rack and pinion kit, disc brakes and cut the front coils for a lower stance,,, the original coil springs are now sagging,,almost coil bound,,and the king pins have wear,,,, im replacing the coils wiith original size and using dropped up rights, to keep the stance but have proper suspension travel,,, i havent talked to fat man in a while on this set up,,and since ply/do is not around any longer,,, i dont know if fat man has new coils to go with his up right kit,,, so im looking for a source for front coils,,, i also will have some pics soon,,i have a few questions about some of the work that was done by the previous owner,,ive never seen before,,, and i picked up a set of 1941 - 1956 nos mooog upper control arms,looking to see if any one knows if there is any thing else i need to convert to use the newer style upper A arms,,, thanks in advance,, Quote
DCurrent Posted March 13, 2014 Report Posted March 13, 2014 it is currently an original 1940 dodge front suspension,,the previous owner installed rack and pinion kit, disc brakes and cut the front coils for a lower stance,,, the original coil springs are now sagging,,almost coil bound,,and the king pins have wear,,,, im replacing the coils wiith original size and using dropped up rights, to keep the stance but have proper suspension travel,,, i havent talked to fat man in a while on this set up,,and since ply/do is not around any longer,,, i dont know if fat man has new coils to go with his up right kit,,, so im looking for a source for front coils,,, i also will have some pics soon,,i have a few questions about some of the work that was done by the previous owner,,ive never seen before,,, and i picked up a set of 1941 - 1956 nos mooog upper control arms,looking to see if any one knows if there is any thing else i need to convert to use the newer style upper A arms,,, thanks in advance,, Keep us informed fsfish66. I will be in the market eventually for my Plymouth. The front springs on mine are weak also and I'll be doing some homework for next winter. Eww, did I say next winter? Bring Summer on first!!!! Quote
Young Ed Posted March 13, 2014 Report Posted March 13, 2014 You guys checked out ESPO springs and things? DC no reason to wait for winter its a pretty quick job to swap them. Quote
fstfish66 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Posted March 13, 2014 You guys checked out ESPO springs and things? DC no reason to wait for winter its a pretty quick job to swap them. DC i wlll do that for sure,, i agree bring on tee shirt weather so my garage isnt so cold,,, young ed,,, ide made a note to check espo thanks,,, Quote
OldDad67 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) ill ask around town,,,or fat man when i order parts next week,,,i dont think ide find any one local doing coil springs Do you have a local shop that specializes in springs? Here where I live we have 2 shops that do all kinds of springs. I took my p-15 rear springs to them and they punched holes in the leaves and added nylon inserts for better spring action. Cost was about $130.00 for both. I didn't ask about coil springs, but I'm sure they could have reffered me to someone that does coils. Check your yellow pages. Edited March 13, 2014 by OldDad67 Quote
fstfish66 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Posted March 13, 2014 thats my next move,,, looking for a local or semi local spring shop,,,,,thanks Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 13, 2014 Report Posted March 13, 2014 again..have you even tried your local supplier? here is Advance auto..two front coil springs listed.. http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web/PartSearchCmd?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&pageId=partTypeList&suggestion=&actionSrc=Form&langId=-1&searchTerm=coil+spring&vehicleIdSearch=373947&searchedFrom=header Quote
fstfish66 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Posted March 13, 2014 thanks for that link looks like they go b ack to 1942... i have a mom and pop auto parts place ill check ,,and just found a not to far away spring shop been there near 100 years,, my next day off on a busniess day ill be calling them,,, now here is a pic i took of my front end,,,DOES any one know, if this is some sort of old trick,,,,of some ones useless idea,,,,, look at the rubber hose zip tied around the ends of the mounting pins and the lower control arms at the bushings,,,, my guess was to keep the grease from making a mess,,,any info would be good t o hear thanks in adavance,,, Quote
DJ194950 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Posted March 13, 2014 I'd be pretty tempted to cut the tie wrap and see whats underneath the added rubber. Was the original rubber seal wasted? Doug Quote
fstfish66 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Posted March 14, 2014 i have no clue im still not sure how much of the front suspension im replacing,,, but thats a good idea,, cut the zip ties and see whats going on ill have to compare it to my friends 40 plymouth,, his doesnt have the rubber tied around it,,,so ill see whats going on,, Quote
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