Will a 2412 hemi bolt to a flathead 6 bellhousing?

[austinsailor]

I thought I asked this today using my I-Phone, but I must need more training on it and this new board - I can't find it!

 

But, I'm trying to verify that the little Dodge hemi, 241 or 270, will bolt to the flathead 6 bell housing. I have a friend who has one that would like to put a little hemi in it. I told him it would bolt up and I'm hoping I didn't lead him astray.

 

I found him a 49 3/4 ton last year, now I've located him a 270 hemi. I sure hope they'll bolt up.

 

Thanks,

Gene 

[Dodgeb4ya]

No dice! The Bell housings are completely different!

[fstfish66]

ill take the hemi off his hands since the holes wont align,,,lol

[wayfarer]

Well, yes and no....

There are a couple of bells that had/have both block bolt patterns. Generally, the bells that I have seen are in the 1956-1959 range but there could be more.

If the truck bell is the original 49 then you are outta luck simply because there was no v-8. If there is a chance that it has been swapped out then 'maybe'... You/he will need to look at the bell.

[Scruffy49]

I've got a 56 or 57 bell I don't need... but you have to take the side shift 3 spd with it. I'd even toss the starter (12v car type, untested, I have a 6v truck one for my project) into the mix.. shoot me the bolt pattern and I'll measure my bell.

[Dodgeb4ya]

I just found this long lost both flathead six and V-8 MoPar bell housing. It's a 22....# so must be around 1960. Multiple trans bolt patterns too. Don't know what MoPar V-8's it fits. Hmmmmmm....

[austinsailor]

That certainly looks like it has a lot of possibilities.  

 

I found some mopar parts search sites but nothing came up.

[P15-D24]

Anyone have a late 50s Hollanders? Might find it listed

[Dodgeb4ya]

Well I have the 55 to 64 Hollander and there are way too many Dodge/ DeSoto bell housing possibilities. I tried but gave up as they don't show all the OE part numbers or what clearly interchanges. I'm way too confused on this part lookup,I looked up truck interchange too-even more possibilities. Sorry guys!

Edited February 7, 2013 by Dodgeb4ya

[wayfarer]

I just found this long lost both flathead six and V-8 MoPar bell housing. It's a 22....# so must be around 1960. Multiple trans bolt patterns too. Don't know what MoPar V-8's it fits. Hmmmmmm....

 

That is one of them!  All EarlyHemi (exc 51-53  331), Spitfire-Windsor-Poly and A series engines pre-62 shere the same bell housing bolt pattern.

 

What is the depth of the bell in the pic?

 

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[Dodgeb4ya]

I'll measure it tomorrow for ya!

Bob

Measures 8-1/2"

Edited February 8, 2013 by Dodgeb4ya

[Scruffy49]

Hmm... my Savoy bell looks nothing like that. Guess mine is L6 only. Still available to anybody that will come get it if they take the trans and starter with them. and I guess the flywheel/clutch can go with, I'm using a truck bell/starter and the flywheel/clutch that matches them (if a 48 assembly will fit a 56 block).

[wayfarer]

I'll measure it tomorrow for ya!

Bob

Measures 8-1/2"

 

That is typical for the truck pieces.  Now, if a guy wanted...the dimensions stack up in such a way that the A-833 just barely works without any adapter so you'll need to make new bolt holes on/into the bell and deal with the registration.

Some flywheels are fat enough that you might pickup a ¼" and allow for a plate on the bell. There are vast differences in flywheels over the years-makes-models...

 

A-833 input shaft oal=8.625,

face of trans to end of splines = 6.125, 

back of the EarlyHemi block to face of oem flywheel = 2.125 

 

The design of the clutch disc hub will determine % of spline engagement.

 

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