barn fresh 47 coupe

[greg g]

I heard about this car about 7 or 8 years ago spoke to the old fellow who owned it but could never make arrangments to view it. He told me it was in running order, but needed some regular maintanence.

looks like it hasn't been tought since I spoke to him. Would guess he has passed on and his estate is selling.

http://syracuse.craigslist.org/cto/2950511488.html

[thrashingcows]

Very Cool.... And a good price I think. And with minimal effort that thing would polish up into a gem I think.

[BobT-47P15]

It actually looks pretty good in the couple pictures.

If I had play money, etc, I would very likely be interested in

that one. His asking price of $4500 is reasonable, especially if the interior

is decent and it runs. I had probably $2500 in the brown coupe before the

tree fell on it......and it wasn't quite a good driver yet. Still needed paint

and interior, tires and other stuff.

Edited April 11, 2012 by BobT-47P15

[Plymouthy Adams]

I think 4500/5000.00 is about the least anyone can have in an old car like these that is a safe reliable road car that is complete..find a running car, buy in at 1500-2000.00, install good tires, brakes, decent paint and nice interior, wiring up to snuff, battery, tune and carb, tank cleaning etc...and I am not counting labor..you can go much much higher from there depending on parts cost, upgrades, refinements, farmed out labor etc etc

[carls 49]

if its driveable and as solid as it looks, i think thats a fair price for it.

[greg g]

another member checked this car out in person. here is his opinion fom a PM.

I will not id him but if he wants to chime in and answer any questions that would be up to him.

Wed, I stopped and looked at this car. The owner is 80 now and has had the car for 20 years, but has not done anything to it since he owned it. It needs interior work, floor pan braces looked good. The car was painted by the previous owner when he went to boces. The car was originally from Fulton, N.Y. I felt the car needed too much work to get it road ready for me.

[T120]

...Cars always look better in photos-on the other hand,people always look better in person

[austinsailor]

It'll need tires -$600 to $800

Battery -$50

probably brakes and cylinders all around - $200 - $500

fuel system cleaned - ???

If I bought it I would expect to put at least $1500 in it before it could go on the road, then see how it drove.

This doesn't include any upholstery, steering or other things you can't see.

Still not a bad start. You could put half the asking price in a rusty one just getting dents and floor pans in good shape. Then the rest in the drive train making it usable. Then still have all the above to do.

[mfccwhite]

I looked at this car hoping it needed less work than my project. While this car had all parts to it, it needed about the same work. Personally I felt the flooring and floorpan braces were better than mine and the engine did manually turn over, but it needed the same amount of work as expected of a project car of this era (electric, interior, etc) and I just did not want to start at the beginning again. Would I spend $4500 for this car in this condition? No. If it had brakes and/or electric done I would have thought differently and considered swapping the engine from my project to save time and costs.

[Plymouthy Adams]

as in most project cars listed, the seller will want the most he can for his car..that is but normal..how to approach this guy with the adjusted price to offset the obvious work that will need be done to make it representative of the asking price usually infuriates most sellers and any negotation is now lost..most view this as a direct knock against their car without thinking the obvious fact the car is not operational..all us us see this daily and while some will eventually see the light and repair the car or adjust the price..sad part is most will get lucky and find some unknowing buyer who will get taken a bit on the sale in his eagerness to own an old relic..it only takes one buyer to complete the transaction..if the man is not in a hurry to sell, markets it right and hopefully not be deceptive but at the same not not address the issues (most folks do this, buyer beware and all) he sells and moves on..new owner quickly learns the cost of repair even if doing his own labor..by doing his own labor and if he enjoys working with his hands..he will still be content with his purchase and make great gains in getting it on the road..buy a car high, relaize the additional cost is what puts a lot of projects in the carpper..metal outlook is everything when dealing with the old cars..

[austinsailor]

Truth is, he could probably put it on the bay and get his price, maybe more, from someone who only saw the pictures.

Then the buyer will put $1000 in shipping to send it across the country. That guy will likely mess with it for a year, then put it back on the bay when he gets bored with it, trying to get his $4500 back, along with his $1000 plus whatever he spent. That will repeat until it hits the top rail.

That is what we are competing with.

[BobT-47P15]

The bad part (sort of) is that the curent owner probably paid $500 to

$1500 for that car 20 years ago. Now, after seeing current prices,

the asking amount is notably higher so he can cash in on the

gravy train.

However, if he sits on it long enough and becomes more motivated, the

price may drop. But, at first, they seem to get pretty insulted if you try

to negotiate.

Have you ever noticed how the ebay (and other) sellers tend to miniimize

the work needed because they may not--or may -- realize how much that

chrome plating and other stuff costs.

[Frank Elder]

The bad part (sort of) is that the curent owner probably paid $500 to

$1500 for that car 20 years ago. Now, after seeing current prices,

the asking amount is notably higher so he can cash in on the

gravy train.

However, if he sits on it long enough and becomes more motivated, the

price may drop. But, at first, they seem to get pretty insulted if you try

to negotiate.

Have you ever noticed how the ebay (and other) sellers tend to miniimize

the work needed because they may not--or may -- realize how much that

chrome plating and other stuff costs.

20 years ago 500 dollars was more money than 4,500 today........our money is getting to be worthless.

[austinsailor]

And 40 years ago that would have been a $50 car! Half a weeks pay. Or a week for many.

[Don Jordan]

My Plymouth was a desert car. I spent $500 for it. Then spent $500 for the rear glass and quarter windows.

I've put over $25,000 into it. I figure it was worth the enjoyment. I would never expect to get more than half of that. It's okay - when I die my wife will probably give it away and someone will come on the board with their great find.

Always remember "It's only money."

My first car: 1950 Buick Special, straight 8. Paid $25 for it and found a dollar in change in the seats. I loved that car. I drove it till it wouldn't drive. Took it to a junk yard. Those were the days.

[Andydodge]

Car values are all relative.......in September 1971 I saw this 1940 Dodge sedan advertised for $40.00........I was still at school but had bought an Oz 1940 Dodge coupe 18 mths before and promptly pulled it apart and realised I needed some parts.

When we, my father & I saw the car and realised it needed to be towed the 15miles home, my father bartered with the Uni student who owned it and I ended up paying $15.00..........it had 2mths rego, was completed down to the owners manual & hubcaps but the ignition wiring was burnt out.

If it was a 1940 Ford it probably would have been $100 as they are more popular. After checking it out once it was home I decided to do it up.

The moral of this story............dunno...........lol.............apart from buy it for as little as possible, its worth what you pay................check ebay etc and caveat emptor........have attached a pic taken soon after purchase and one taken a couple of yrs ago..........andyd

[Young Ed]

Truth is, he could probably put it on the bay and get his price, maybe more, from someone who only saw the pictures.

Then the buyer will put $1000 in shipping to send it across the country. That guy will likely mess with it for a year, then put it back on the bay when he gets bored with it, trying to get his $4500 back, along with his $1000 plus whatever he spent. That will repeat until it hits the top rail.

That is what we are competing with.

I've watched this very thing happen with my Dads old 39 plymouth. The guy we sold it too kept it for a while and improved a few things and then found a coupe and sold the sedan. Since then its gone from buyer to buyer going up and up until its now priced at a ridiculously high 9K. This is for a 39 plymouth 2dr sedan with a very amatuer restoration in the 70s.