Original style oil filter.

[48P15Annie]

Is there somewhere to buy original style oil filter cartridges? Some years ago, before my grandpa bought Annie, it was converted to a modern spin on oil filter. Yeah, it's convenient the 2 times a year the oil is changed. But, it looks bad. The first thing you see under the hood is that orange Fram oil filter. I have the original style oil filter under my bench in my shop, just no cartridges for it. I would love to put it back on. Anyone know where I could get the filters, without paying an arm and a leg? Thanks guys

[55 Fargo]

If it is the by-pass canister filter, go to NAPA, buy a NAPA Gold # 1071 ( made by Wix), about $5.00 to $10.00.

If it is the canister, which you change the whole contained unit, contact Roberts Motor Parts, he may have em.

Post a pic of what you have. Possibly you could move the spin-on filter out of sight, and paint and installl the OEM canister housing for decoration........Fred PS you can get new decals for the filter housing from Roberts or Neil Riddle

[48P15Annie]

Thanks! I'll upload a couple pictures of it tonight.

[michael.warshaw]

i have a a brand new replacement type for sale.

[TodFitch]

If it is the by-pass canister filter, go to NAPA, buy a NAPA Gold # 1071 ( made by Wix), about $5.00 to $10.00.

If it is the canister, which you change the whole contained unit, contact Roberts Motor Parts, he may have em.

Post a pic of what you have. Possibly you could move the spin-on filter out of sight, and paint and installl the OEM canister housing for decoration........Fred PS you can get new decals for the filter housing from Roberts or Neil Riddle

There are a couple of different filters offered originally by Chrysler and many more that were after market. The more common ones seem to use the 1071 or 1080 cartridge but not all. He might have the "heavy duty" one that uses the "sock type" filter 1011. See http://www.ply33.com/Parts/group10#10-26-06

[Jim Saraceno]

I didn't think you could replace the by-pass filters with full flows.

[TodFitch]

I didn't think you could replace the by-pass filters with full flows.

You can mount a remote full flow adapter someplace and route the bypass lines to it. It will still be a bypass filter but be using full flow media. Sort of the worst of both worlds with respect to actually keeping your oil clean.

[cwcars88]

I have the same problem , on my stock Model "A", bright orange filter. I put a small piece of masking tape on the filter number, turn filter over and paint the filter Ford green so it doesn't jump out at you when the hood is open.

Wayne

[Captain Neon]

Wix filters are black. No problem in a P15.

When the drop-in canisters become scarce, I intend to switch to spin-on filters, but not a moment sooner. If my P15 had already been switched to spin-on filters, I'd just keep the spin-on. If I ever decide to do a rebuild, I may switch then.

[Eneto-55]

This is part of the reason why I was asking (in another thread) about if most of you are using the engine splash (or dust) shields. I was thinking of converting to a spin on filter, and mounting it under the splash shield, so that it would not be visable from above, and would give easy access to changing the filter from underneath, without the mess of oil running all over the place.

[48P15Annie]

Here are some pictures of my original style oil filter. Appears to be the canister style...not cartridge... Figures, with my luck.

Edited September 28, 2010 by 48P15Annie

[TodFitch]

Here are some pictures of my original style oil filter. Appears to be the canister style...not cartridge... Figures, with my luck.

You pictures on gmail can't be directly accessed except by you logged into your account... So save the images from your gmail to your machine then you can attach them to your post using the "Additional Options" area below the text box. You'll want the one that says "Manage Attachments".

Even if you car originally came equipped with the disposable canisters you have options:

1. Roberts still claims to have them.

2. They are available on ePay

3. You can get the replaceable element style housing and mount it with the same brackets that the disposable canister uses.

[48P15Annie]

You pictures on gmail can't be directly accessed except by you logged into your account... So save the images from your gmail to your machine then you can attach them to your post using the "Additional Options" area below the text box. You'll want the one that says "Manage Attachments".

Sorry...forgot about that. That has happened before. I'll have to repost them from my home PC later today.

[desoto1939]

I originall had the old metal oilcan cannisters PB1/2 on my 39 Desoto.

When the cost of these went throught the roof and they were starting to cost over $30 for an oil filter I converted my car to the type that you put the filter inthe metal housing. I used the same mounting bracket that was attached to the engine. I had to make two new oil lines which were very cheap.

Now the cost of a filter is around $10. If you car is being judged at a AACA event the judges willnot take off points if you have the type inwhich you place the element into the metal housing or if you have the metal throwaway style PB1/2. It just has to look period correct and also the unit needs to be painted and not look as if it just came out of the parts bin.

So you have several options. If you are not really concerned about point judging but you have a car that is a driver then do what ever floats your boat. remember it is your car and you are the one that is spending the money to keep the car running. If someone wants to comment at a car show about which filter you have onthe car then put your hand out and ask them for the money to change it to their liking. Its your car and not theirs or even better sell it to them and then turn the situation around and see how they feel. I am not trying to be sarcastic, but every one is a judge and knows everyhting aboiut every car, yea right.

Rich Hartung:)

[48P15Annie]

I fixed the pictures.

[Captain Neon]

IMHO, it seems that you should get Wix filters or paint your favourite brand black. That's just what I would do, but if you simply must have a period correct canister filter there are several for sale on eBay.

[TodFitch]

I fixed the pictures.

Yep. That is the old, no longer produced by a mainstream manufacture, disposable canister type. WIX made those up until about 10 years ago (51035). Roberts claims to stock them and there is a company in India that claims to make them.

The bracket that is on it is the one you would use to mount at least one of the factory housings for the replaceable element type, so don't throw that away. See http://www.ply33.com/Parts/group10#1123152 for one that uses that bracket.

[48P15Annie]

I don't HAVE to have the original style. I don't know why I didn't think of painting the orange Fram filter before...lol. The only reason I don't like it, is beacuse it's orange and draws so much attention. It's the first thing you see under the hood. When I change the oil next Spring when she comes out of storage, I'll paint it.

If I were to enter her in a judged car show, would she loose points for the modern spin-on oil filter?

[TodFitch]

If I were to enter her in a judged car show, would she loose points for the modern spin-on oil filter?

Yes.

[48P15Annie]

I probably never would...judged car shows aren't my thing. Just wondering...

I don't show my cars to win anything. I just like for other people to enjoy them and be around fellow car lovers

[Roadkingcoupe]

So this thread had me thinking about the filter on the 41 Plodge (Plymouth bodied Dodge coupe). It is a PB 1/2 and needs to be changed. This would be the ideal time to go to the drop in cartridge style. At $50 a filter the PB 1/2 is starting to get pricey for an oil change. Would a FRAM drop in filter (NORS fresh out of the box) be a deduction on points at a judged meet?

Is there a benefit going from a PB 1/2 disposable to another Fram bypass style cartridge (drop in) oil filter? Thanks for your response(s).

p.s. when searching around for the oil filters I came across an NOS new in the box MoPaR (PB 1/2) Oil filter with the MoPaR logo right on it. neat!

[Captain Neon]

A bright orange FRAM drop-in canister probably would garner lost points, but one painted black would probably go unnoticed. Lots on eBay to choose from, but if you've got the FRAM unit already, I'd just paint it black and call it good.

[desoto1939]

If you use the painted orange Fram filter it will not deduct point. The filter was a dealer installed option and dealer had their own suppliers.

AACA judges are looking for period correct equipment. The spin on filter will definately deduct points.

I have an AC dropin filter assembly on my 39 Desoto. AC made filters and this is an apporpriate style for the car. The originla Fram PB1/2 was also a factory orange color so the orange fram canister is acceptable.

Rich Hartung

[BobT-47P15]

Re: judging points and oil filter.

I would guess that if you painted the cannister black, the judges at a

local or area show might not give any deduction for it. They often just

look generally for overall appearance.

But, if at an AACA or Plymouth Club event, it might be counted off, as

they probably want period correctness with the right filter unit.

Just my thoughts........

[Jim Saraceno]

My filter has an original Mopar sticker on it and it's not black...