surfertoad Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 I am looking for Pictures of how the spare mounts behind the front seat. Pictures, drawings, etc... would help. The tire area was blocked and covered. I do not know what goes in there, can anyone help? Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jim Yergin Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 I think the picture Michael posted is of a 1940 or 1941 wagon. My understanding is that the P15 wagons had the spare mounted behind the driver and not in the middle. Jim Yergin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.warshaw Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 the pic i had is a 40 your right, that is hte only pic i had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfertoad Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 The tire is mounted on driver side on my 48, from what I can see which was blocked with wood. The the mount may be the same though. There is no hardware on mine so I need the see how the tire sets in the seat. Do you have any pics of how the tire mounts to the seat frame? Thanks again Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT-47P15 Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Where's Bob VanBuskirk?? m His wagon is probably correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Yergin Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 The tire is mounted on driver side on my 48, from what I can see which was blocked with wood. The the mount may be the same though. There is no hardware on mine so I need the see how the tire sets in the seat. Do you have any pics of how the tire mounts to the seat frame?Thanks again Ron Ron, If it will help you, I will try and take some pictures of the spare tire set-up on my '41. I think you are right. The hardware is the same just in different locations. Jim Yergin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Where's Bob VanBuskirk?? m His wagon is probably correct. I took this shot of Vanbuskirks woody about six or so years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Yergin Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Here are some pictures of the spare tire in my '41 wagon. Jim Yergin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfertoad Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Jim Thanks a LOT, looks like I can reproduce most all of the sheet metal (but have to find the center screw mount pieces), But I now have an idea what to look for. I take it that the piece the tire sets onto is screwed onto wood that is behind the back sheet metal? Thanks to Jim and rest for giving me some info, and if anyone else has more to show from a 48....would be great as well..... Thx again Jim.. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfertoad Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Jim, If you don't mind....how far does the metal of the wheel housing stick out from the back of the seat? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfertoad Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Don, This is what looks like what my is exactly like....wouldn't have any inside pics would you..... Thx Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Ron that middle piece looks exactly like the reg pass version used in early p15s and probably the rest of the 41s too. Here is one I sold that I removed from a p15. It'd be a few months but I bet I could find one of these in the junkyard near here or the later p15 version which works the same but is 1 piece instead of 2. And the special washer that goes with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Yergin Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Jim, If you don't mind....how far does the metal of the wheel housing stick out from the back of the seat?Ron Ron, The metal surround piece is 6.5 inches wide and sticks out from the back of the seat 2.25 inches. Jim Yergin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Yergin Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 JimThanks a LOT, looks like I can reproduce most all of the sheet metal (but have to find the center screw mount pieces). Ron Ron, If you wanted them, I could send you the dimensions of that center mount piece. It has some fairly simple bends and if you could find someone to bend it for you I think you could replicate one. Just let me know. Jim Yergin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfertoad Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Young Ed If you could find one, please let me know and what you want for it. I could priobley make something simular but quicker if I could find one. Thanks Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfertoad Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Jim, Your the man, thanks again... Yopung Ed here on line may be able to find the center mount. Do you happen to know where to find this mount. Thx Ron P.s. From what I can see, your 41 is awesome.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 It'll be a couple months before I start junkyarding again but I'm sure I can find one. The 2 I had I sold already to others on the site. Since they appear to be the same as reg sedans and coupes its a pretty easy find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Yergin Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Ron, Sorry I don't know of a source for the center mount. Thanks for the compliment about my car. If you belong to the National Woodie Club, there is an article in the January Woodie Times that I wrote about my 20 year restoration. If you don't get the Woodie Times and want to read the article, if you PM me an email address, I can send you a copy. Jim Yergin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfertoad Posted January 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Please do... my email is easyactionsurf@yahoo.com Thx again Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Yergin Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Ron, I just sent it to you. Jim Yergin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1940plymouth Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Jim, Could I be a pain in the next and have you email your article to me at: rdrown@hvc.rr.com Thanks, Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertKB Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 The centre hold down piece for my spare tire in my D25 is the same as the two piece one shown by Jim Yergin. I do have a variation on that if you are interested. The slot would be for any variation in tire size so you could still line the bolt up. I have included a couple of pictures of it and it does fit the five bolt holes of the rims our cars use as I just tried it. It came out of a 1948 D25 so is likely just a variation. If interested PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Robert I think the slotted one you mention is a later style. The 2 piece one I had came out of a 46 and my 48 has one like you pictured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertKB Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) Thanks, Ed. You are probably right as the one in my own Dodge D25 came out of a late '46 or early '47 Chrysler and as mentioned is the two piece. The slotted one I pictured came out of a '48. Maybe I should keep if for my own '48 and sell the other one. A difference between the two I have is the one that is two piece is a wider diameter and the prongs do not fit in the lug holes but on the rim itself and the prongs are a bit longer to do this. The one piece slotted one fits right into the lug holes. It was likely cheaper to produce and that is the reason for the change. Edited January 25, 2010 by RobertKB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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