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    timkingsbury got a reaction from Uncle-Pekka in George update, and AoK Intake updates   
    Just thought I would share a picture of fellow Canadian Joe Flynn's  cool ride, now running an AoK dual carb intake, linkage and air cleaner setup that I just got.

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    timkingsbury got a reaction from pflaming in Floor shift concepts for Mopar column shift Transmssions   
    I apologize in advance to the person I got this from and I will find it and provide them credit at some point.
    For this one of course it would not work on an r10g1 overdrive, although that is not to say they couldn't make one for that purpose.


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    timkingsbury got a reaction from Look in Adapter plates to utilize a modern floor shift A833 4 speed overdrive on most Mopar Flathead Cars (ready to ship)   
    You can use any 23 spline (fine spline clutch) from the 1960s and newer. The current one you have is a course spline that was from the 1950s and older. I would use
    the biggest clutch your pressure plate will take. The last one we put in was for a 1966 dodge cornet rt clutch (10 ½”) and it came with a  pressure plate as the one that was in the car was in rough condition.   It  came from napa  and was listed as a clutch pack although there are lots of great and inexpensive options available.   If your current pressure plate is 
    in decent shape then likely a 10 1/2"  clutch will work fine and they are readily available from all the major part suppliers.
     
    I really dont know the width of a jeep cherokee.   Here is a handy chart for a lot of the cars which gives you the widths and that is the key for you is making sure you have 
    the track width close. Having the spring widths the same is also a nice thing as it saves more work.  In terms of drive shaft its just a case of having the yoke with 
    the finer spline for the transmission and the rear end. So  measure your spring widths and your track width and compare them to the jeep.  Personally  I prefer going to
    a car version  and depending on what your doing engine wise,  likely around the 3:55 or 3:73 ratio.  One of the mistakes guys do is going to something 3:23 or 2:73 and 
    you suddenly have a dog at lower speeds. So unless your really building a performance engine  3:55 would be as low a number as I would suggest.
     
     
    Hope that helps get you rolling.
     
    Tim
     
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    timkingsbury got a reaction from 40Club in Single Carb Intake, Dual Carb Intake, Triple Carb Intake, why not more ?   
    Here is my carter ball and ball cheat sheet.   Always keep in mind that it is very common to see people swapping tops, middle sections and bases so often looking at the marked part number on the carb bowl wing turns out to be foiled when someone has swapped around parts.  Add in different jetting and  carter ball and ball carbs give you an incredible range of carburation choices. This isn't a definitive list of every Carter Ball and Ball used, and some  I didn't list throttle bores and venture sizes, nor did I get into jetting.  You can literally wind up with paralysis by analysis with all the combinations an permutations there are available.
    Carter ball and ball Carburetor  - Tim's cheat sheet
    Plymouth -  

    3 bolt – center section is 660 for Plymouth – starting 1950

    2 bolt – center section is 635 -  1949 only

    2 bolt – center section is 370 -  1939 – 1948


     
    633s 1934-35 taxi base 395-4   (1 1/8 throttle bore 1 1/16 venturi)


     
    1933 – 1938 – model 439s (1 7/16 throttle bore and 1 ¼ venturi)


     
    1940 – 1942  -  “P9”  Carter Carb Ball and Ball  model # b6p1, b6r1 and b6s1 (2 hole base)

                              (1 5/32 throttle bore 1 3/32 venturi)


     
    1942 (p14) and 1946-48 (p15)    Model d6g1 – (2 hole base)

                                                         (1 9/16 throttle bore 1 ¼ venturi)


     
    * 1949 (p17 – p18) 1950 (p19-p20), 1951-52 (p22 – p23), 1952 (p24) and 1954 (P25) model d6h1, d6h2  

                                                                                    ( 1 9/16 throttle bore 1 ¼ venturi)


    there was a d6n1, d6n2  and d6r1 which are the same as the 1949-1954 carbs but have throttle restrictors

     
    * 1953 – 1954 – P24-p25 Plymouth with overdrives – D6U1 (1 9/16 throttle bore and 1 ¼ venturi)


     
    Dodge

    Bolt pattern on base is 2 15/16”  and the center hole 1 11/16”

    3 bolt – center section is 661 for Dodge truck 

    2 bolt -  center section 404 – from early 1941  to 1947


     
    1937 – 1940 truck   - etr1r (2 hole base)


     
    1940 – 1948 cabover is a 6c1, 6c2, 6d1, 6dir, 6e1, 6f1, 6g1, 6m1 (updraft carb)


     
    1941, 42, 46, 47 truck  etr1r, b6s1, dta2, dtb1-dtb1r, dtb2-dtb2r, dtb3-dtb3r, etp2, etr1-etr1r


     
    1942 – 1949 trucks – model dtc1 (1 9/16 throttle bore and 1 ¼ venturi) or

                                 model ett1 (1 11/16 bore and 1 11/32 venturi)


     
    * 1946-1947 carbs with velocity governors – eyb1, eyb4, eyc1, eyc3, et1, et2, et4, e7b1, e7c1, e7f1, e7s1


     
    * 1950-1954 ½ and ¾ ton and 1952 1 ton – dte1 and dte2 (1 9/16 throttle bore and 1 ¼ venturi)


     
    * 1950 – 1956 1 ½ - 3 ton – e7t1 and e7t2 (1 11/16 throttle bore 1 11/32 venturi)


     
    1950-1954 cabover is 6n1 and 6n2 (updraft)


     
    ** 1952 2 ¾ - 4ton with dual carburetors – e7u1 and e7u2  1 11/16 throttle bore amd 1 11/32 venturi)

        E7t10-1533 center


     
    * Dodge d46 and d47 – 1953  - model d6h2 1 – 9/16 throttle bore and 1 ¼ venturi

                                                      * Same thing but with overdrive – model d6u1 (same bore and venturi)


     
    ** 1953-1956 2 ½ ton truck with 2 carbs – model e9k1 and 39y1 (1 11/16 throttle bore and 1 11/32 venturi)

        (this is the 265 ci motor carbs)


     
    *1953-1955 2 ¾ ton – 3 ½ ton or 1953-56 4 ton – model e9g1 (1 11/16 throttle bore and 1 ¼ venturi)

      (this was the 331-377-413 big block motor with dual carbs)


     
    * 1953-1955 1 and 1 ½ ton truck (route van) e9h1 (1 11/16 throttle bore and 1 11/32 venturi)

       (this is the 331-377-413 big block – single carb)


     
    * 1954 d51 and d52 – e9n1 or e9t1 (1 11/16 throttle bore and 1 11/32 venturi)

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    timkingsbury got a reaction from 40Club in Single Carb Intake, Dual Carb Intake, Triple Carb Intake, why not more ?   
    Here is my carter ball and ball cheat sheet.   Always keep in mind that it is very common to see people swapping tops, middle sections and bases so often looking at the marked part number on the carb bowl wing turns out to be foiled when someone has swapped around parts.  Add in different jetting and  carter ball and ball carbs give you an incredible range of carburation choices. This isn't a definitive list of every Carter Ball and Ball used, and some  I didn't list throttle bores and venture sizes, nor did I get into jetting.  You can literally wind up with paralysis by analysis with all the combinations an permutations there are available.
    Carter ball and ball Carburetor  - Tim's cheat sheet
    Plymouth -  

    3 bolt – center section is 660 for Plymouth – starting 1950

    2 bolt – center section is 635 -  1949 only

    2 bolt – center section is 370 -  1939 – 1948


     
    633s 1934-35 taxi base 395-4   (1 1/8 throttle bore 1 1/16 venturi)


     
    1933 – 1938 – model 439s (1 7/16 throttle bore and 1 ¼ venturi)


     
    1940 – 1942  -  “P9”  Carter Carb Ball and Ball  model # b6p1, b6r1 and b6s1 (2 hole base)

                              (1 5/32 throttle bore 1 3/32 venturi)


     
    1942 (p14) and 1946-48 (p15)    Model d6g1 – (2 hole base)

                                                         (1 9/16 throttle bore 1 ¼ venturi)


     
    * 1949 (p17 – p18) 1950 (p19-p20), 1951-52 (p22 – p23), 1952 (p24) and 1954 (P25) model d6h1, d6h2  

                                                                                    ( 1 9/16 throttle bore 1 ¼ venturi)


    there was a d6n1, d6n2  and d6r1 which are the same as the 1949-1954 carbs but have throttle restrictors

     
    * 1953 – 1954 – P24-p25 Plymouth with overdrives – D6U1 (1 9/16 throttle bore and 1 ¼ venturi)


     
    Dodge

    Bolt pattern on base is 2 15/16”  and the center hole 1 11/16”

    3 bolt – center section is 661 for Dodge truck 

    2 bolt -  center section 404 – from early 1941  to 1947


     
    1937 – 1940 truck   - etr1r (2 hole base)


     
    1940 – 1948 cabover is a 6c1, 6c2, 6d1, 6dir, 6e1, 6f1, 6g1, 6m1 (updraft carb)


     
    1941, 42, 46, 47 truck  etr1r, b6s1, dta2, dtb1-dtb1r, dtb2-dtb2r, dtb3-dtb3r, etp2, etr1-etr1r


     
    1942 – 1949 trucks – model dtc1 (1 9/16 throttle bore and 1 ¼ venturi) or

                                 model ett1 (1 11/16 bore and 1 11/32 venturi)


     
    * 1946-1947 carbs with velocity governors – eyb1, eyb4, eyc1, eyc3, et1, et2, et4, e7b1, e7c1, e7f1, e7s1


     
    * 1950-1954 ½ and ¾ ton and 1952 1 ton – dte1 and dte2 (1 9/16 throttle bore and 1 ¼ venturi)


     
    * 1950 – 1956 1 ½ - 3 ton – e7t1 and e7t2 (1 11/16 throttle bore 1 11/32 venturi)


     
    1950-1954 cabover is 6n1 and 6n2 (updraft)


     
    ** 1952 2 ¾ - 4ton with dual carburetors – e7u1 and e7u2  1 11/16 throttle bore amd 1 11/32 venturi)

        E7t10-1533 center


     
    * Dodge d46 and d47 – 1953  - model d6h2 1 – 9/16 throttle bore and 1 ¼ venturi

                                                      * Same thing but with overdrive – model d6u1 (same bore and venturi)


     
    ** 1953-1956 2 ½ ton truck with 2 carbs – model e9k1 and 39y1 (1 11/16 throttle bore and 1 11/32 venturi)

        (this is the 265 ci motor carbs)


     
    *1953-1955 2 ¾ ton – 3 ½ ton or 1953-56 4 ton – model e9g1 (1 11/16 throttle bore and 1 ¼ venturi)

      (this was the 331-377-413 big block motor with dual carbs)


     
    * 1953-1955 1 and 1 ½ ton truck (route van) e9h1 (1 11/16 throttle bore and 1 11/32 venturi)

       (this is the 331-377-413 big block – single carb)


     
    * 1954 d51 and d52 – e9n1 or e9t1 (1 11/16 throttle bore and 1 11/32 venturi)

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    timkingsbury got a reaction from 55 Fargo in Floor shift concepts for Mopar column shift Transmssions   
    This one was a Fenton "universal" floor shift conversion kit, that then someone adapted it for their purposes which was in a early 50s van, similar to this one which likely will be the 1st time this is seen in public!  lol
    I believe this is similar to what my Dad did in his pickup although since I never say it together on a transmission that is pure speculation.
    If you have other floor shifter actually installed on Mopar 3 speed transmission that was previously a column shift, either already installed and happen to have pictures, or are working on one, or even have  ideas, feel free to post away !





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    timkingsbury got a reaction from 50plymouth in Solving the Modern Overdrive with a Floor Shift using Mopar Parts   
    Hey Paul -  Its not the Kingsbury or Asche style to go bashing people and because it is our blog, I would prefer to exercise some tolerance and flexibility when in my mind its clear someone just wandered down the wrong road.  As well the idea of floor shift concepts isn't a bad idea for a topic so I will start one.  But no apologies required.  Now lol, if it was a chevy part, or t5 suggestion, well I would likely be suggesting your in the wrong church!.  Have a great one and good luck on the knee surgery.
    Tim & George 
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    timkingsbury got a reaction from 55 Fargo in Floor shift concepts for Mopar column shift Transmssions   
    This one was a Fenton "universal" floor shift conversion kit, that then someone adapted it for their purposes which was in a early 50s van, similar to this one which likely will be the 1st time this is seen in public!  lol
    I believe this is similar to what my Dad did in his pickup although since I never say it together on a transmission that is pure speculation.
    If you have other floor shifter actually installed on Mopar 3 speed transmission that was previously a column shift, either already installed and happen to have pictures, or are working on one, or even have  ideas, feel free to post away !





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    timkingsbury got a reaction from 55 Fargo in Floor shift concepts for Mopar column shift Transmssions   
    Another floor shift concept, that again, I need to do some digging and see where I got the concept.




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    timkingsbury reacted to 50plymouth in Solving the Modern Overdrive with a Floor Shift using Mopar Parts   
    From one Paul to another Paul, I have known George and Tim for around 20 years now and did have the opportunity to meet Eddy Kingsbury at Chrysler Carlisle in 2009. Classy, professional and all of them were off the chart smart and some of the modest guys I have ever met.   Like you I 1st met George and Tim via the telephone. That was great, but nothing like meeting them in person. If you ever have the opportunity, I would strongly suggest it should be on the top of every true Flathead Mopar enthusiast bucket list.  Just don't wait to long as George is getting up there and Tim's Dad who I intended to go north to Canada to see the following spring, passed away that fall. That is not to take away from Tim although there is nothing like talking to guys who were there in the early days, or at least the 1940's , 50s and 60s and in the forefront of Performance Flatheads back then.
    My apologies for the speech but I just thought  it was appropriate when two good guys who maybe don't seem to know each other quite as well, might just have ran into each other in the back wood, both thinking the other had their guns drawn!
    Paul M
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    timkingsbury got a reaction from pflaming in Floor shift concepts for Mopar column shift Transmssions   
    I apologize in advance to the person I got this from and I will find it and provide them credit at some point.
    For this one of course it would not work on an r10g1 overdrive, although that is not to say they couldn't make one for that purpose.


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    timkingsbury got a reaction from 50plymouth in Solving the Modern Overdrive with a Floor Shift using Mopar Parts   
    Hey Paul -  Its not the Kingsbury or Asche style to go bashing people and because it is our blog, I would prefer to exercise some tolerance and flexibility when in my mind its clear someone just wandered down the wrong road.  As well the idea of floor shift concepts isn't a bad idea for a topic so I will start one.  But no apologies required.  Now lol, if it was a chevy part, or t5 suggestion, well I would likely be suggesting your in the wrong church!.  Have a great one and good luck on the knee surgery.
    Tim & George 
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    timkingsbury got a reaction from 50plymouth in Solving the Modern Overdrive with a Floor Shift using Mopar Parts   
    Hey Paul -  Its not the Kingsbury or Asche style to go bashing people and because it is our blog, I would prefer to exercise some tolerance and flexibility when in my mind its clear someone just wandered down the wrong road.  As well the idea of floor shift concepts isn't a bad idea for a topic so I will start one.  But no apologies required.  Now lol, if it was a chevy part, or t5 suggestion, well I would likely be suggesting your in the wrong church!.  Have a great one and good luck on the knee surgery.
    Tim & George 
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    timkingsbury got a reaction from 50plymouth in Solving the Modern Overdrive with a Floor Shift using Mopar Parts   
    Not quite sure what this has to do with either the fluid drive bell housing or the a833 conversion,  but hey ..  its interesting. So in your picture are you saying that is a 3 speed transmission with a Volvo overdrive ?    Or is the picture to illustrate making the standard tranny a floor shift ?  I have no issue with your post, just trying to determine what your trying to illustrate here ?
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    timkingsbury got a reaction from oldasdirt in Solving the Modern Overdrive with a Floor Shift using Mopar Parts   
    Howdy 49BC -  Actually it wont really be relevant in term of the adapter plate, although I expect it will fit on the bell housing. The issue is the a833 4speed does not have a long enough input shaft to work. On the overdrive front, we have done it many time to use the r10g1 overdrive from a 1952-56 Plymouth and then change the input shaft to a long input shaft and throw out bearing to work with the fluid drive situation.   Whether there are long shafts available for the a833 I do not know,   I do know guys have switched the Plymouth bellhousing to go with a standard transmission or overdrive but I honestly have no experience in terms of what is involved.  I can try and find out for you.  In the mean time, here is a picture of the r10g1 with the long shaft I was referring to.

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    timkingsbury got a reaction from oldasdirt in Solving the Modern Overdrive with a Floor Shift using Mopar Parts   
    Lol, ok so it really doesn't have much to do with this thread. I likely should start a new topic on just floor shifts.  In terms of the r10g1 I can price out all of that for you. Its likely not as bad as you think. Of course that will be column shift.  My buddy George Asche has literally done hundreds of them. If they are decent rebuildable  they cost $450 to rebuild + parts.  What is included is new bearings, bushings and gaskets. I would guess its 80% + that George does for that. If gears are  ground, or people want fast seconds or there are parts missing well that starts to add up. The wiring, George hand makes wiring harnesses for them, as he does for the earlier r7 or r6 of which there were the 1940 and earlier that are floor shft. But from kickdown switches, overdrive relays and options switches to put on a steering wheel or dash are all readily available NOS or brand new.
    In terms of the shifter in your picture, I think its going to be really close to the seat. But maybe your planning on buckets and want it way back.  In terms of adding an overdrive behind your existing transmission, Ive seen over the years many try it and a few got it to work but they were always a lot of work , extra connection points, bracing or brackets and there maybe some out there but I never saw one that then had 20-30-50,000 miles + on them.
    But back to floor shift, there are always people looking to change a column shift setup to floor shift so I will start a thread and if you and others want a place to start documenting and discussing ideas, go for it!
     
    Tim
     
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    timkingsbury got a reaction from oldasdirt in Solving the Modern Overdrive with a Floor Shift using Mopar Parts   
    Howdy 49BC -  Actually it wont really be relevant in term of the adapter plate, although I expect it will fit on the bell housing. The issue is the a833 4speed does not have a long enough input shaft to work. On the overdrive front, we have done it many time to use the r10g1 overdrive from a 1952-56 Plymouth and then change the input shaft to a long input shaft and throw out bearing to work with the fluid drive situation.   Whether there are long shafts available for the a833 I do not know,   I do know guys have switched the Plymouth bellhousing to go with a standard transmission or overdrive but I honestly have no experience in terms of what is involved.  I can try and find out for you.  In the mean time, here is a picture of the r10g1 with the long shaft I was referring to.

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    timkingsbury reacted to Mikec4193 in The Grand Master Turns 85 today !   
    Still out working in the garage at 85...now that is awesome...
     
     
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    timkingsbury got a reaction from 55 Fargo in A833 Overdrive Trans Conversion   
    Great to see you jumping into the blog-a-sphere.  Looking forward to  many great topics on the "Up and Coming Flathead Mopars"!
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    timkingsbury got a reaction from jyinger in Update - "AoK - New Dual Carb intake for the USA flathead 6"   
    Howdy -   via email to fargopickupking@yahoo.com   which is me tim kingsbury or by calling George Asche  Jr   814-354-2621
    or you can also get me via my cell at 519-766-5695..    whatever works best for you !
     
    Tim
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    timkingsbury got a reaction from jyinger in Update - "AoK - New Dual Carb intake for the USA flathead 6"   
    I will add you both to the list to let you know when we are ready to ship !  In terms of pricing I will drop you a note.  I will put  pictures on this blog entry (above)  of our big block AoK triple with the headers. Obviously these would be for the small block (23 1/2" Plymouth/Dodge engine) but would have a  similar look.
     
    Tim
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    timkingsbury got a reaction from jyinger in Update - "AoK - New Dual Carb intake for the USA flathead 6"   
    Howdy  Folks -  The new intake is coming... honest.. The pattern was completed late in February, and was sent over to be cast.  A 1st intake was cast, and there was a very minor issue we wanted corrected. That took place and the pattern was actually back in the hand of the casting  hands by the 1st week in March.
     
    Sadly,the gentleman who does our casting had a wife who has been long battling cancer, and she has passed away, which unfortunately has taken him out of action.  It really brings home how important things in life like intakes really are.   Needless to say the casting of the intakes has not taken place as our good
    friend has had to deal with the passing of his best friend and wife.
     
    The good news, is  I did hear from him today, and he thinks he will be up to getting what we anticipate as
    the final test intake and we hope to see it shipped to us this coming week.
     
    We wont have the intakes ready by this coming weeks  Spring  Carlisle.  In fact,  for this an a couple of
    other reasons  we wont have the AoK booth at Spring  Carlisle this year.  George has sub'd  out the 3 spots.
     
    For those patiently waiting,  please,  still don't send $$$   I want to know we have the intakes in hand
    and ready to have machined before we "unleash the hounds".
     
    Again, my  apologies.. I truly thought we would have them ready to ship right now.
     
    Tim Kingsbury &  George Asche
    AoK  Racing & Performance Parts
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    timkingsbury got a reaction from 40Club in AoK intakes.. Shipping and going going going.. gone   
    An update folks -  George is now back home from the hospital.  He is quite weak, but is up and moving around.  His daughter June is staying with him making meals etc and while its clearly taking longer for George to get back to himself than anticipated,  for being 85 years young I guess its to be expected.  I have passed on all the thoughts and notes from people and they are definitely appreciated. 
    As it effects intakes, carbs and linkage,   we do now have 100% of the dual and triple intakes back from the machine shop.  I haven't been able to actually get down to George`s and start shipping out intakes to those who are just wanting intakes.   On my end of the world, my Mom hasn't been well the last few weeks and I have been on stand by as she has been in the hospital and going through a bunch of tests etc.     But I will be going down late this week or early next and get those moving.
    For those who have ordered intakes with carbs and or linkage obviously were in a holding pattern and I apologize for that.  George has been pretty much been out of pocket for the last month and while we could enact a plan b, there is nothing like having the master building linkage and carbs so we would ask for and thank you for your continued patience.   
    On numbers -  the Aok triples for the 25 inch big blocks are now sold out.    if you want to get your name on a waiting list in case someone bails or  for a future run, send me an email to fargopickupking@yahoo.com      On pricing, we will certainly be updating people as we have information, which is to say we wont be holding anyone to an order when or if there is a price increase without reconfirming.
     
    On the AoK dual intakes there are still a few not spoken for. I think its either 2 or 3. Once they are spoken for we will be in the same situation as with the triple talked about above.
     
    Tim
     
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    timkingsbury reacted to 40Club in AoK intakes.. Shipping and going going going.. gone   
    Prayers and Positive Thoughts for George's Speedy Recovery.
     
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    timkingsbury reacted to 55 Fargo in AoK intakes.. Shipping and going going going.. gone   
    Hi Tim, glad to hear George is home, but sorry to hear his recovery is not going as well as expected.
    Give him and his family my regards, for a speedy recovery.
    I am also sad to hear your Mother is not doing well these days, not easy for her and not easy for you. I hope all works out for her, and she is feeling better soon.
    I am glad the merchandise is moving along, and hope George is back in the workshop ASAP to get those orders fulfilled.
    I sure wish I were much closer, could and would help you package and ship orders.
    Hang in there Buddy, and lets hope all returns to normal real soon......
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