Robin (UK)

Someone in the UK has been advertising 1941 Chrysler parts from a car he's breaking.
I will try to track down the advert.

Edit:
Found it. PM on its way.

D25 gravel pans are smooth and the bumpers wrap around further than on the P15.
The bumper irons are different too... If you look closely, you'll see an extra pair of bumper bolts visible at the front.
As the blue car is in Canada, perhaps the bumpers were swapped at some time, using parts that were available locally?
For reference, here are a couple of pictures of a D25 coupe, here in the UK...

On 7/23/2017 at 0:28 AM, keithb7 said:

Today, I entered my first car show. I had a great time. 8 hours chatting up cars with other enthusiasts. There were about 100 cars. I had the only 50's Chrysler. There was a '47 (P-15 I think?) Plymouth there. I met the local owner and we shared knowledge and helped each other out a bit. We agreed to meet up again soon. He's about to start rebuilding a spare L6 to install in his P15. I'd like to be in there like a dirty shirt helping him. On his current block SN stamp I saw the P-15 letters.

This 47 Plymouth had original interior. It was pretty neat. It was converted to 12V by someone but the current owner is not too keen on it. He is thinking about converting it back to 6V. He's got low PSI in centre two jugs, so he's getting ready to rebuild.

 

 

Thanks for sharing your adventures.
It's interesting to see that the P15 is fitted with Dodge D25 bumpers and gravel pans.
I wonder if those are original to the car?
 

Alan, in the UK, just told me he found one of these in the trunk of his P15 Business Coupe when he got it.
I haven't seen it, or any pictures, but it's clearly a period item.
If I get more info I will post it on this thread.

7 hours ago, Eneto-55 said:

I was about two years old when this car was buried, living 16 miles north of Downtown.  I heard about this car all through my early childhood, and wanted to visit back home when it was brought out, but didn't make it back there.  My grandpa owned a service station back then, and when I was 5 or so, we moved a storage shed from the service station to the place we were living.  In a loft in that building was a whole stack of brand-new commemorative 'license plates' that said 1907 Visit Oklahoma 1957 across the top, and OKLAHOMA in large letters in the middle.  I think there is only one left, and my Dad has it.  (I had it for a while, but thought I should give it back to Dad, although I'm pretty sure it was me that saved it when it was the last one around, probably in the early 70's.)  When it got close to 2007 I had an idea to make a bunch of them just like it, but with 2007 in place of the 1957, but when I found out how much the dies would cost, I gave it up.  Afterwards, seeing what a big 'circus' the whole event was, I think it would have been a good investment.  But maybe it would have been better yet to leave it say 1957, I don't know.

Great story about the license plates.
A quick google search threw up this eBay listing...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Visit-Oklahoma-Semi-Centennial-Front-License-Plate-Tag-MINT-/162530284719?hash=item25d78f54af:g:of4AAOSw53NZARsh

Here's a DeSoto that was in a Swiss yard in 2013.
And a couple of Plymouths in Ireland...
The first is a picture from a The Seaflower trawler funeral in 1968.
The second is a car that was for sale in 1983 but, sadly, does not seem to have survived.

Portuguese Dodge

And here's an Irish one.
I believe this one's long gone.

Here are a few more pictures of the Belgian Dodge

I think that car still exists. It's in Belgium.

Dean and I will be back on the sand in 12 days time, at the VHRA Hot Rod Races at Pendine Sands in the UK...

OK, so we've got 'Coupes You Like' and "Art Deco Vehicles' threads.
How about showing us your P15 Convertibles?
Here's mine, owned since 2004...

I've never heard of this car, Bob.
It looks like it could have been the test bed for the Dodge La Femme models.
 

A guy I know, who has a fairly serious car collection, flew out to the US to look at the Plainsman in 2013, with every intention of buying it.
But he came home empty handed as the asking price was a solid $130k and he reckoned on it needing at least that much again for restoration costs.

 

1 minute ago, Don Coatney said:

I hate to bust the bubble but my wife wants me to get a convertible next so I would get a 1948 Roadmaster.

 

If we're going GM I would have to say that I saw a stunning 49 Caddy convertible at a show in the UK.
Black paintwork, black top, deep red leather interior and not overly laden with chrome.
Truly understated class. It was a real stand out car.

My top 5 in date order...
Apologies, I can't seem to get the photos to load in order.

1939 Dodge Convertible with body by Graber of Switzerland. (picture 2)
This actual car was for sale in The Netherlands some time ago.

1941 Chrysler Thunderbolt. (picture 4)
Only five were built, each in a different color. The green one came up for sale a few years ago!

1942 DeSoto convertible. (picture 5)
I really like the hideaway headlights. A Thunderbolt feature that made it to production.

1946-1948 Dodge D24 Business Coupe. (picture 1)
I love the proportions of this car.

1955 DeSoto hardtop coupe. (picture 3)
A hemi-powered beauty.

12 hours ago, greg g said:

Some where on this forum the brown color used on the dash, steering column and steering wheel was called out by name. Krylon has a color which is very close called Kona brown.  I used Ace Hardware rust X seal brown on my Studebaker truck steeringwheel and it is very close also.  It seems a lot of manufacturers used shades of brown on these parts groups.  And yes the under dash panel for heater fan, cigar lighter and ign switch on the Deluxe is wood grained like the sappele pattern of the main dash. The color on the deluxe is light brown, I have seen special deluxe where it looks gray to me. Another little color accent I found is one the Deluxe horn button, the Mayflower insignia is highlited with orange paint what I thought was a black highlight turned. out to be dirt, cleaning with a detailers brush and general purpose cleaner revealed the orange.  The deluxe also has an enameled (cloisonné) Mayflower emblem not seen on Special deluxe trimmed cars.

The factory color is called 'Vogue Brown'

49 minutes ago, dale said:

Wonder why they didnt have wood grain on the convertibles  ?

The convertible dash is welded in.
Woodies have the same cowl and windshield construction as the convertible, so i would guess those also have a body-color dash.

17 hours ago, BobT-47P15 said:

The dash is woodgrained, matched by the window frames.  That strip across the glove box is medium/dark brown....not a

woodgrain.  I don't know the official name for the grain, but it is a decal.   Hopefully others can give you more detail

on this.       On a convertible, the dash and window frames match the exterior.......no woodgrain used.      

 

Bob's description is correct.
Woodgrain to dash and window garnish moldings but the strip across the center is dark brown.
On Deluxe cars, I believe the switch panel under the dash is also woodgrained. This is chrome on Special Deluxe.
Here's a 1946 ad with a good reference illustration, and a couple of pictures of the dash in a low-mileage unrestored car

5 hours ago, Mark D said:

Bob the turn signal indicator looks original to the car, but I am unsure as to whether or not it was factory installed. One of our fellow English comrades remarked it appeared factory in a foto that I had posted on Facebook. Still unsure, but here are the fotos.

I'd say that the indicator bezel on the dash is factory which would suggest that the full turn signal kit was originally specified. But the Signal-Stat switchgear is a replacement unit.

There was no paint on that name plate.
Here's a photo from back in the day...

Congratulations (again) on a great find, Mark, and thank you for your kind words.
I'm looking forward to regular news updates.
Good luck with everything.
Robin

12 hours ago, Young Ed said:

What kinda hubcaps are those?

That looks very much like a British MkIV Zodiac hubcap.
If it is, that would be more of a mystery than the marker!

20 minutes ago, normanpitkin said:

I found mine hiding in the archives of the Chrysler  Historical Society.

Yes, copies are available from Chrysler Historical.
They send it with some interpretation of the codes.
This is card for my '47...

1 hour ago, Brent B3B said:

very cool you two!

I would blame it on being topless Robin, lets get you a racing top!  I am pretty sure that wind resistance cost you the difference

although, you might have gained some speed by all the shine on it

I tried top up and top down. Not much difference.
I think the extra weight of the convertible was always going to be a handicap.
My improvements through the day were, I believe, due to gaining experience of the start and the way the car was performing. It was my first time on a drag strip so I have a lot to learn!