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December 7th, 1941


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College students that don't know the significance of 9/11? ? Just goes to show the state our education system... The Pearl Harbor attack happened 26 years before I was born, but I'm still very aware of the significance of Dec 7th, 1941, thanks to the education that I received. 

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in today's world of individuals, it is only pertinent if it pertains to the individual....they are their own cause, their own importance their own imagined legacy...the education system is stripping their culture and their heritage at a pace that in 10 years we will have no history of the sacrifice of our forefathers in the creation of this nation...the only thing that is basically surviving and who knows for how long, is your text books that are yet in print...and many of them are getting rewritten daily...our books of old are being referred to as fairy tales and that todays new revelations of the past is the truth..

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Its up to the parents to educate.

My kids are grown and appreciated their Dads love of history.

They know things about history that their Grandparents don't.

My son is an English teacher...he spells words better than me.

In my opinion, history is like math and the auto manuals we hold so dear.

Its there to read, reread and remind us of the details, so we can have brain space to remember where the heck we left our keys.

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One of the trends is to do away with text books, everything is being digitized. Some schools hand out PC or Apple laptops with digitized textbooks already installed. The textbooks cannot be copied to another computer except by the school. Students must use authentication to view the textbook contents. This allows the schools or publishers to revise any part of the textbooks they so choose and control access to the information. When new revisions are released, the old copy of the text is replaced with the latest revision. With the exception of any archives the publisher or school has, there is no paper trail of changes. The publisher expires the license to use the old textbook. If a school were to use the old textbook, they  would be breaking their Software License agreement and subject to some pretty hefty fines when caught.

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Wonderful & thoughtful responses.  I try to remember everyday the cost of our freedom.

Along with a declaration of war being signed on this day in history, another less significant event happened 34 years ago today.

Tim & Lori Powell married.  12/08/1984 thru 12/08/2018.  Holy Cow, I put up with her 34 years and counting???????

 

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Married "84" not 83.
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I've stood over the Arizona and watched the oil leak and rise to the surface.  These days I usually find myself reminding people of Pearl harbor on December 7th.  Frustrating to say the least....

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45 minutes ago, casper50 said:

Worden I've also been there, have also stood on the deck of the USS Missouri.  Quite humbling.  

I've seen the Missouri, Wisconsin, and New Jersey close up, but never boarded any of them. We refueled from the Wisconsin in the Persian gulf back in 1991during Desert Storm.  It was an awesome sight being next to it as we were steaming along.

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My father served aboard the Missouri as part of the commissioning crew. He was a gunners mate and gun captain center 16 inch gun second turret.  He was a witness to the Japanese surrender.  As the ceremony concluded the Japanese delegation was at the gangway poised to leave the deck for the tender, he said that the sky over Tokyo harbor was darkened by formations of American and allied aircraft over 1200 in number. Told us it took his breath away, and certainly sobered the Surrender party. 

 

We went to Hawaii a few years ago and had a special tour given upon request to family of "Plank Holders" those crew members who were aboard when she sailed for her first patrol.  Got to see inside on of the turrets, the shell and powder elevators, the fire control center, the combat bridge and berthing areas most visited don't get to see.  He also said at one point in the Pacific they were ordered to proceed to an distant area to support an island landing.  Said at flank speed they easily outran their destroyer escorts and cruisers in their battle group. So something thing as long as the empire state building is high cutting through the water at just north of 40 miles per hour.  Yes I remember.

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Don't remember Dec,7' 41, I was only two. But I remember rationing of sugar, flour, gasoline, and rubber,  and the endless groups of airplanes headed for LA. There flew in groups of 40, as I recall and when one group came it was always followed by another 8 or 10. We especially liked the P38's. They had a distinct sound. Dad was a farmer and most farmers were exempt as I recall. 

 

After the war, surplus food was given to schools and the school lunch program started. Life was very basic back then. 

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Holy Cow I'm Proud To Be A Part Of This Group.

  My Father was Air Force. We flew over Pearl Harbor departing Hawaii for Japan, 1964.

Close as I've been.

I salute all that have served and continue to serve.

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