Choke Cable Clamp

[db_ca]

Hi.  As you can see from the attached photo, I am missing the choke cable clamp for my D6H1 carb.  Some help in words or photo of the missing part would be appreciated, as well as, any help in locating a source for that part.

Thanks a lot,

Don

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[casper50]

db_ca welcome but no photo showing.

[Mark D]

I clicked the xxx.tif and it revealed a carb photo that has the choke cable connected on the drivers side of the carb. Typically it’s the other side.  I suspect this is a later model carb that would have been set up with a sisson automatic armature. Correct model carb for a p15 would be D6G2. 

[greg g]

I clicked and got a can't open file message.  But for all things carter related the standard answer is call George As he.  8143542621.  

[db_ca]

casper50 and Mark D,

 

Sorry for the confusion.  I'm new to Plymouths and to this forum (how to work the photos).  I'm hoping that the images are properly inserted.  At any rate, I assumed the carb model was the number stamped on the web as in photo 1.  It certainly is possible that the carb is not the original.  Photo 2 is from the passenger side and photo 3 is from the driver's side.

[dpollo]

That carburetor  is made for the automatic choke.   Tops will (for the most part) interchange so you do not need a complete new carb.  The choke cable setup is on the other side and is typical of all light trucks and Plymouths from 46 to 48.    I also notice that your vacuum advance is not connected and perhaps more important is the link from the bell crank to the carb is incorrectly installed.    The swivel end with the nut should be at the carb end and on the outer part of the throttle lever to avoid binding.   A throttle stuck in the open position is no laughing matter.  ( I learned this the hard way back in '62 )

 

Edited July 2, 2018 by dpollo
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[desoto1939]

Here isa picture of a D6H2 carb taken from Ebay.

 

[db_ca]

Thanks desoto1939.  I think maybe I searched ebay only for D6H1 and came up empty.  Here is an ebay photo of a D6H2 and a photo of my carb from the driver's side.  They are looking a lot alike.  I'm probably missing something.  I'm not expecting a cable clamp on the carb since the throttle cable clamp is on a bracket attached to the head.

[Merle Coggins]

You haven’t said what year, make, model, car you are working on. I’m not sure when the cars started using the automatic chokes, but as was said, that one may be setup for that arrangement. 

Here’s the DTG1 in my truck. I know it’s a different carb, but it shows the choke cable clamps. Without a bracket to hold the cable housing it’s not going to work very well. 

 

[desoto1939]

The sission choke was an option onthe 39 Plymouth but was used on the 39 and up Chrysler, dodge and Desoto's.  In the picture of the D6H2  the hole that is showing on the linkage was used for the rod that came off the sisson choke lever to acuate the choke butterfly in the carb. So does you car have two small studs on the manifold on a flat spot just behind the caburator. If the manifold has this then this is where the sisson choke would have been mounted with a gasket. There also would have been a wire that connected to the starter selinoid that ran to the choke. The electric choke was energised from the starter contact wire.

 

Below is a picture of the sisson choke installed in my 39 desoto Note the location of the choke and the electric wire and the metal rod to operate the choke buttefly

 

Rich Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

Edited July 3, 2018 by desoto1939

[db_ca]

Thanks everyone for your help.  Sorry for not indicating that my car is a 48 Plymouth Special Deluxe Coupe of unknown history.  With your help and some research, I've concluded that the carb is probably close to a D6H1, probably slapped together.  To really assess the carb, I will need to remove it and examine its operation more closely, especially relative to the fast idle linkage.  I also bought a 1946-1948 carb and air cleaner off ebay in hopes of restoring the engine to stock.  I'm also not sure whether the engine is original or not.  I need to check the engine serial numbers.  The car has been lowered and I'm seriously considering getting back to stock height.  I may need some advice on that in the future.  Meanwhile, I'm going to go to the El Segundo Driving Museum where they have 50 or so vintage cars on display.  I'm hoping they have a 46-48 Plymouth or Dodge that I can examine more closely.  Also, I'm heading to the Long Beach Auto Swap Meet on Sunday to get back into the correct mindset.

 

Thanks again for your help.

[db_ca]

I thought I would add some information for this post.  My 48 Plymouth Special Deluxe Coupe is a P15.  Carb data from the 1946-1950 service manual is shown below.  My car should be equipped with a Carter B&B D6G1.  This carb has a manual choke.