59bisquik Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 I have been searching for a "rotational" noise near the rear of the engine bay ever since I put in my new engine. I am working on pulling my engine out to fix an oil leak and check a lifter problem when I find this. The new bearing is shot, and the pressure plate arms have been machining away the lower part of the bearing. I checked my old bearing and found the same thing. Looks like two wrong bearings in a row. Correct me if I am wrong, but this bearing should fit much tighter on the front of the tranny and keep it centered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desoto1939 Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 I have a federal Clutch release bearing catalog I can not find a dodge model c1b I do have a a dodge truck 1954-46 all 1/2 toon to 2 ton listing. it show the Mopar factory part number as 581498 with the federal number being D-1087 which is the the holders with the bearing attached. Bearing only is 581499 and the federal bearing number is 1087 Can you find any part number in your parts book for your truck this might help me identify the correct clutch throwout release and bearing assembly. The catalog also has a cross ref section so I might be able to identify other manufactureres if you can supply me with the appropriate Dodge or Mopar number from your parts book Rich Hartung desoto1939@aol.com cell 484-431-8157 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59bisquik Posted June 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 I just measured the old bearing and its 1.75" on the inside diameter. Rock Auto lists that bearing for the truck. I just looked up a 55 car on Rock Auto and it shows a 1.25" internal diameter. The front bearing retainer on the tranny is 1.24". I am wondering if the front bearing retainer has been changed at some time or if I have a car tranny installed. Rich, thanks for the help. I was trying to confirm what is mixed up here. However, this is just one more thing to push me in the direction of a tranny upgrade. At this point the stocker or my R10 are not going in. I dont think either will live long behind the 325 and I already need to upgrade my clutch because it will easily pull through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 Is it a 3 speed trans? Here is the info out of the 1954 thru 1956 Dodge truck parts book...you figure it out! C-series... I don't know about ... too late for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desoto1939 Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 I can not read the Mopar Number becasue of the way the manual is rolled if you provide the throwout bearing mopar number I might beable to help. rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 I tried several times to photo and capture good pics.. well can't do any better... So I'll hand type all this? .....Bearing with sleeve W/O Truck-O-Matic NOTE 1 STD. Domestic... series 1-3U ...part#1503408 ......W/O Truck-O-Matic Note 2 STD. Domestic...series 1-3U part#581498 .....Bearing, W/O Sleeve ..series 1-3U.... part# 581499 ......Bearing W/O Sleeve.....series 3A ... part#1664510 2 types of 3 speed std transmissions were used ... a side cover shifter and a top cover type shifter... see notes on the pictured pages... they make note of this and correct parts applications.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desoto1939 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, Dodgeb4ya said: I tried several times to photo and capture good pics.. well can't do any better... So I'll hand type all this? .....Bearing with sleeve W/O Truck-O-Matic NOTE 1 STD. Domestic... series 1-3U ...part#1503408 ......W/O Truck-O-Matic Note 2 STD. Domestic...series 1-3U part#581498 .....Bearing, W/O Sleeve ..series 1-3U.... part# 581499 ......Bearing W/O Sleeve.....series 3A ... part#1664510 2 types of 3 speed std transmissions were used ... a side cover shifter and a top cover type shifter... see notes on the pictured pages... they make note of this and correct parts applications.. Ok thanks for th einput info: partnumber 1503408 first line no information found in my catalog line two part# 581498 46-54 1/2 ton trucks to 2 ton trucks federal Number D-1087 and this is the clutch release with bearing attached line Part # 581499 is the bearing only and the federal bearing number is 1087 line 4 no information D-1087 Federal Clutch Bearing assemblies Dodge trucks 1/2 to 1 1/2 ton 1939-40 All models 1941-47 1/2 to 2 ton 1948-54 Bearing measurement 1087 Bore 2.062, overall diameter 3.562, width .750, type thrust and sealed complete assemblies D-1087 description Iron Adapter sleeve number 1057 Hope this get you the correct Clutch throwout assembly Rich Hartung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 I think his trans is a 3 speed like used in the cars with the shift levers on the side of the trans.and uses a regular T/O bearing and sleeve like on a car?. The top loader shift cover 3 speed (H-Duty) probably uses the larger sleeve and bearing.... same for a 4 or 5 speed trans. OP what's U-got? a 3 speed trans.... side or top loader? I'll look deeper in the parts book L8ter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59bisquik Posted June 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 It's a side shift 3 speed. I was just wondering what got screwed up... don't bother looking for the right bearing number. This is just another excuse to upgrade to an OD tranny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 The info I posted was for both you and Rich and others. Someone might need this info in the future if they can find this thread. I'm not lookin anymore.! I'm worn out. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59bisquik Posted April 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 I found the easiest solution for this old problem. Since you need either a new front bearing retainer of the right size or a car throw out arm which is probably just as hard to find, I had something fabbed up instead. My machinist made me a nice press in oilite bushing for the throw out bearing. Those should work just fine and might help somebody else down the road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55 Fargo Posted April 6, 2019 Report Share Posted April 6, 2019 On 6/24/2018 at 3:50 PM, 59bisquik said: I have been searching for a "rotational" noise near the rear of the engine bay ever since I put in my new engine. I am working on pulling my engine out to fix an oil leak and check a lifter problem when I find this. The new bearing is shot, and the pressure plate arms have been machining away the lower part of the bearing. I checked my old bearing and found the same thing. Looks like two wrong bearings in a row. Correct me if I am wrong, but this bearing should fit much tighter on the front of the tranny and keep it centered. Sleeve it like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59bisquik Posted April 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 On 4/5/2019 at 6:22 PM, 55 Fargo said: Sleeve it like this. Yup... that’s exactly what I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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